HP Envy 15? i7 meets 4830+15" screen!

[sleey0]

Medium before the system melts

[Genryu]

4860 isnt 40nm? you could have a long wait if your going to wait for them to upgrade the envy's hardware.

the data sheet says DDR3 so i guess it is confirmed. but surely there will be upgrade options.

Yeah it might be a while before the add in the ATI 5XXX series into the envys, but as far as it being DDR3 vs. GDDR3 there is the possibility that the spec sheet is wrong. Maybe not, but I would hope that on a machine this pricey they'd make sure it's up to snuff.

[Genryu]

Medium before the system melts

Haha you know I'm sure someone might just end up doing that (but seriously though that'd be really bad news). Of course if something sparks and you've got that magnesium chassis...sure would make some headlines.

[Kuu]

Haha you know I'm sure someone might just end up doing that (but seriously though that'd be really bad news). Of course if something sparks and you've got that magnesium chassis...sure would make some headlines.

Computers are 100% safe from fire though, there's nothing to worry about~

[sgogeta4]

I am not going to debate DDR vs GDDR here, as there are tons of resources on the web.

All I'm going to say is that the 4830 will be severely crippled if it uses DDR memory instead of GDDR.

What's the point in having a 4830? They could have gone with one of the newer GPU's that use GDDR5 and it would have be better, IMO.

Is there any non-forum related debate w/ actual testing of a GPU w/ DDR3? As far as I know despite ATI listing using DDR3, when you pull out the hardware and examine the memory chips, all their cards use GDDR3 and any listings of DDR3 are typos. GDDR3 is based off of DDR2 technology and would be 50% better than DDR2 but not DDR3. GDDR3 at 1GHz has a bandwidth of 9.6GB/s while DDR3 at 1GHz has a bandwidth of 8.53GB/s (vs. DDR2 at 800MHz w/ 6.4GB/s bandwidth - at a theoretical 1GHz it would have 8GB/s). GDDR3 and DDR3 both use 1.5V signaling, while DDR2 uses 1.8V. I'm still waiting for proof that shows that DDR3 in a GPU would severely cripple an identical card w/ GDDR3.

[Fragilexx]

Computers are 100% safe from fire though, there's nothing to worry about~

This is not true. Laptop fires can occur, but this is typically battery related. Search youtube for laptop fire and you'll find examples. Also, there have been numerous battery recalls due to the risk of failure and potential risk of fire.

[sleey0]

As for the ATi 4830 using DDR3 or GDDR3.

As for proof, I don't have any I can only make a guesstimate and we will see shortly

I will say though that since the 4830 isn't exactly a powerhouse, the memory it uses will affect it. The bus is also 128 bit which I have no idea why they didn't use GDDR5 as it would have let that card perform very nicely.

[L3vi]

what setting you guys think the envy 15 could play crysis on?

Probably on max settings but at lower resolution then native resolution. If you tone down some effects, you could probably play smoothly on max resolution.

However, I'm waiting for a conclusion on this whole GDDR3/DDR3 debate. I really doubt that the difference is that huge. And if it is, why would hp do something like that?

[Follin]

As for the ATi 4830 using DDR3 or GDDR3.

As for proof, I don't have any I can only make a guesstimate and we will see shortly

I will say though that since the 4830 isn't exactly a powerhouse, the memory it uses will affect it. The bus is also 128 bit which I have no idea why they didn't use GDDR5 as it would have let that card perform very nicely.

If you want to prove that Envy 15 MAY come with DDR3 memory, this link might suit you better:

http://www.amd.com/us/products/noteb...860-specs.aspx

[Quicklite]

Computers are 100% safe from fire though, there's nothing to worry about~

My concern with 4830, is that while its a pretty powerful card, it's already hampered by 128 bit bus, now if it indeed DDR2, just wonder if it's really much better than 46x0.