HP Ultrabook: HP Folio 13

[excalibur1814]

If it comes with WWAN I'll probably buy one as the battery is nearly reaching my current 2560p with extended battery. Also going to go for the i3 to keep the heat down and battery life up.

Hang on.... 4Gb MAX!?? Also only uses an mSata drive!

Ummm... Nope, sorry, I'm not buying one of these.



As for the Envy I'm thinking that they're getting them into the hands of people before the reviews complain about it looking like a Macbook.... Like ALL reviewers currently do which annoys the CRAP out of me.

[excalibur1814]

Are the SSD's on this replaceable? (7mm maybe?) or would they be like the Macbook Air?

They will ALWAYS be replaceable... just depends on how far you're willing to go to get to it.

HP Folio 13-1000 Notebook PC series- Manuals - HP Business Support Center

Maintenance Manual
Uses mSata for the hard drive

You'll need to remove 16 screws, the keyboard, top case, then you can exchange the hard drive

[CKtalon]

Thanks -

Already did suggestion 1 - just seems strange to me as my desktop doesn't even allow you to enable defrag at all on the SSD there.

As to item 2 - no joy. Literally - no hibernate option Under Sleep. There is "Sleep->Sleep after" but no "Allow hybrid" or "Hibernate after". If I check the power options with "powercfg -a", it says that hibernate is not available. Pretty funky if I do say so myself.

To the guys that have wiped and installed fresh - how does it show for you?

Thanks

Usually if you run the windows experience index benchmark, windows will realize that you have a ssd (the hdd score being above 6ish) and do all the ssd tweaks itself

[Sanchertx]

Hello,

Hibernate is not available is Intel Rapid Start Technology is enabled. The Rapid Start is enabled by default
To disable, Press F10 at Boot, go into BIOS System Configuration, and Disable the Intel Rapid Start.
Hibernation will now be available

[jeepfun]

Hey Sanchertx - thanks for the reply. I would love to understand a little more about how Rapid Start works (Can't find much info out there).

I ask as when I close the lid and say wait 5 minutes to re-open, windows starts near instantly. However, if it's closed say 30 minutes or more (haven't locked it down to exact time) there is a least a 10 second recover time AND you have to hit the power switch to resume.

Any additional info would be appreciated..

Thanks

[gunny5821]

Here is a NEW Folio YouTube:

Introducing HP Folio13 Ultrabook? - YouTube

[excalibur1814]

Just realised that the Folio can have 8Gb if you're willing to get inside of the thing. I'm now thinking of ordering.

[excalibur1814]

Mine has just arrived

First boot:
-84 running processes

Bloatware: (Removed)

-Adobe shockwave
-Adobe Reader x
-Bing bar
-Cyberlink YouCam
-Evernote
-HP Documentation
-HP Support assistance
-Skype
-VIP Access SDK
-Windows Live essentials
-Windows Live Mesh activeX
-(I've left most of the Intel stuff - Come on Intel please don't go crazY)

Other:
-No paging file
-System protection off




Second boot:
- 76 running processes


Disabled/Changed the following in the bios:
-Fan always on: Disabled
-Intel smart connect: Disabled
- Seriously Intel you suck! I want to disable the webcam and other devices but your bios lacks options.


Services changed to disabled:

Adaptive Brightness, EVERY single Bluetooth service as I don't use, Diagnostic System Host, Diagnostic Service Host, Distributed Link tracking Client, HP Auto, HP Support assistant Service, IconMan_R, IKE and AuthIP Ipsec keying modules, Intel Wireless bluetooth etc, Both Intel management and security... , Intel proset/Wireless Event log, Intel proset/Wireless registry service, Intel Centrino Wireless bluetooth etc, IP Helper, ISCT Always updated agent, Anything .net (And check back after updates), Offline files, Portable Device Enumerator Service, print spooler (I don't print), Remote Registry, Shell Hardware Detection, SSDP Discovery, Superfetch, UPnP device host, Windows Defender (Turn the program off first), Windows Font Cache Service, Windows Image Acquisition (WIA), Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service, Windows Presentation Foundation Font Cache 3.0.0.0, Windows Search, WinHTTP Web Proxy Auto-Discovery Service

Removed tick from MSCONFIG (Startup tab):

-Intel common user interface
-Intel common user interface
-Intel common user interface
-Intel Proset\Wireless Bluetooth
-intel Proset\Wireless
-Synaptics Pointing device driver
-Windows (R) Win 7 DDK driver
-HP on screen display

I decided not to do a clean install for a change and I've not experienced ANY issue(s) with the trackpad.


Final results:
-17 seconds to desktop from off
-Steady 0% CPU use after the initial spikes
-37 running services


Cool sense - Does it work? Everything set to MAX battery (modified power saver profile)
-24c ambient temp
Cool sense on:
-51c/53c idle temp.
-76c Highest temp running the WEI
Cool sense off:
-51c/53c idle temp.
-78c Highest tep running the WEI



Conclusion:
To HP: Please, please, please resolve your running fan issues and get the fan profiles right straight away. Refine the thermal compound application. You get a pass on this machine as it's your first Ultrabook (Obviously forgetting your earlier machines like the Envy 13). Intel: Stop installing so many stupid drivers/applications and services. Less is more. Overall it's a lovely little machine and the real test will be when the lady friend has a look later on tonight .

P.s. The fan is NEVER going to turn off on this machine which will always be my main complaint.

[talmarsh]

My brand new folio is on its way...
Wanted to get a 64gb/32 sd card. Anyone know its read/write limitations? (what's the best it can handle).

Thanks.

[smeegle]

I ask as when I close the lid and say wait 5 minutes to re-open, windows starts near instantly. However, if it's closed say 30 minutes or more (haven't locked it down to exact time) there is a least a 10 second recover time AND you have to hit the power switch to resume.

Any additional info would be appreciated.

Cant help you other than to say my Envy 14 Spectre behaves in much the same manner. I too would like to know what is going on. I find it annoying that opening the lid only resumes the unit some of the time.

I have the Intel Rapid Start Technology is enabled in my bios. So therefore hibernate would seemingly be disabled. In win 7 power mgmt I see enable hybrid sleep is set to off and hibernate to never.
So what changes after the unit has been left I wonder?