*HP EliteBook 8740w Owners Lounge - PART 1*

[Aikimox]

Haha, that clevo is a monster in every aspect. Very clunky looking.
They actually use desktop CPUs for that.

The M18X.....looks like wishful thinking for now. Unless you want to keep playing the waiting game.
Alienware computers definitely offer great specs. Although the main advantage seems to be the SLI configuration options. Again, mainly for gamers.
Those childish, gamer-oriented designs are not my cup of tea.
I would look silly with that thing in the middle of a meeting while trying to discuss an important project.

Now, now, I want everybody to take me serious...pay no attention to the alien head with glowing eyes. LMAO

If you're surrounded by complete snobs and square-thinkers at work - turn off the lights.

I made quite a few strong business connections just by being myself regardless of the cliche/norms/etc.
What could be more pathetic than a bunch people in 100% formal dress, making serious faces and talking like educated zombies about things they don't even understand - C'mon.

[True_Sultan]

If you're surrounded by complete snobs and square-thinkers at work - turn off the lights.

I made quite a few strong business connections just by being myself regardless of the cliche/norms/etc.
What could be more pathetic than a bunch people in 100% formal dress, making serious faces and talking like educated zombies about things they don't even understand - C'mon.

Aikimox read this (sorry if its crazY)

Alright hear is the dealio with my problem yah know.

So i need a multipurpose laptop for my 4 years in university. Im doing a major in Aerospace engineering, i might specialize in jet propulsion and HE physics/Astrophysics. I don't remember correctly but as a kid i have an aspiration/inspiration/dream of the unknown (hard to explain, mind consuming :errr: , it even confuses me). So i decided to take aerospace for the research. That was the background information. Now i need a laptop that can also be a desktop replacement, as I can't take my desktop with me because i'll be at the dorm. SO now what I plan to do with the laptop is to do word processing, labs, internet research. I would also download and play the latest games such as the mmorpg's, rpg's fps and such. I will also be watching high quality movies through youtube and from DVDrip, blueray rip avi files. I will be listening to music, i will be testing out alot of tools, some crazy mods and such. I will be trying to make mods. For school purposes and for fun to i will be using 3DS MAX, MAYA and such. I will also use CAD I believe. So the whole Auto desk entourage. I will also for fun use ADOBE CS5 (some tools like aftereffects, photo shop and sound booth). Now for my personal gain, fun and for school, I will be doing internet research and maybe even data manipulation, or authenticity check of say some videos or such. (now the whole authenticity check won't be used all the time). I would also do research and collect data and create a database of sort (of the unknown) full of videos, audios, charts and files. I will also be writing simulations and such as well, part of my computational sciences and for physics courses. I will also be exploring with this laptop. So I will be carrying it around everywhere. Now i believe that I will be (at one time or the other) doing programing of some sort (FORTRAN or C most probably) so idk OpenCL or CUDA might help. And I believe that's what I would be doing, as on my desktop i do most of those things. By most i mean i don't do any engineering/scientific computation as of yet, because i need learn it first

Im now confused as because im kinda a lil scared buying online, i never bought online ever in my life

[lostbuyer]

a hah, this is so cool .

So from what I've read CPU can parallel process using the HT technology. CPU can compute in serial and parallel and can do almost any algorithm (multi-tasking and all purpose processor) while a GPU has many cores (there weaker) and there better at vast data manipulations and such and are able to do some specialized algorithms

Generally right. Any multi-core CPUs does work in parallel [that simply means running more than one stream of instructions at once]. HT is a way to increase parallelism on a fixed number of cores (including single-core P4 chips). The CPU's parallel processing is generally used (by the OS) to run different programs at the same time, and sometimes different parts of a multi-threaded program at the same time. The latter requires careful programming because you have to make sure that you don't get important operations out of order - if you're interested in the mechanics, look up locking and concurrency.

GPUs are generally used by one process at a time - the pipelines are given small programs (in a special language) to tell them what to do, then the application (being run by the CPU) feeds data to them as fast as they can take it.

If you want to really learn what's going on "under the hood", take an Operating Systems course (concurrency, etc) or a Graphics course (shader programming). A Physical Simulation course will likely employ these tools, but not go into how exactly they're working.

[RampageII]

If you're surrounded by complete snobs and square-thinkers at work - turn off the lights.
**Aikimox: I can't turn it off. It won't....let....me.
I...must....obey... the alien head.
Oh no, please, not the probe again**

I made quite a few strong business connections just by being myself regardless of the cliche/norms/etc.
Maybe they were mesmerized by the glowing alien head???
Damn, come to think of it, maybe I should get me one of those. It might come in handy.
***Everybody gather up please and look closely at the alien head with glowing eyes......everybody ready?.....grrrreat. FLASH! ***

What could be more pathetic than a bunch people in 100% formal dress, making serious faces
Nah, we're not like that at all. Although that was the scenario I was picturing, with the one dude sticking out like a sore thumb.

and talking like educated zombies about things they don't even understand - C'mon.
What makes you think we don't understand what we're talking about?

..............

[True_Sultan]

Generally right. Any multi-core CPUs does work in parallel [that simply means running more than one stream of instructions at once]. HT is a way to increase parallelism on a fixed number of cores (including single-core P4 chips). The CPU's parallel processing is generally used (by the OS) to run different programs at the same time, and sometimes different parts of a multi-threaded program at the same time. The latter requires careful programming because you have to make sure that you don't get important operations out of order - if you're interested in the mechanics, look up locking and concurrency.

GPUs are generally used by one process at a time - the pipelines are given small programs (in a special language) to tell them what to do, then the application (being run by the CPU) feeds data to them as fast as they can take it.

If you want to really learn what's going on "under the hood", take an Operating Systems course (concurrency, etc) or a Graphics course (shader programming). A Physical Simulation course will likely employ these tools, but not go into how exactly they're working.

ahh alright. So bro look at the post above you, i wrote down my whole deal so read it and suggest me stuff :P

Alright hear is the dealio with my problem yah know.

So i need a multipurpose laptop for my 4 years in university. Im doing a major in Aerospace engineering, i might specialize in jet propulsion and HE physics/Astrophysics. I don't remember correctly but as a kid i have an aspiration/inspiration/dream of the unknown (hard to explain, mind consuming :errr: , it even confuses me). So i decided to take aerospace for the research. That was the background information. Now i need a laptop that can also be a desktop replacement, as I can't take my desktop with me because i'll be at the dorm. SO now what I plan to do with the laptop is to do word processing, labs, internet research. I would also download and play the latest games such as the mmorpg's, rpg's fps and such. I will also be watching high quality movies through youtube and from DVDrip, blueray rip avi files. I will be listening to music, i will be testing out alot of tools, some crazy mods and such. I will be trying to make mods. For school purposes and for fun to i will be using 3DS MAX, MAYA and such. I will also use CAD I believe. So the whole Auto desk entourage. I will also for fun use ADOBE CS5 (some tools like aftereffects, photo shop and sound booth). Now for my personal gain, fun and for school, I will be doing internet research and maybe even data manipulation, or authenticity check of say some videos or such. (now the whole authenticity check won't be used all the time). I would also do research and collect data and create a database of sort (of the unknown) full of videos, audios, charts and files. I will also be writing simulations and such as well, part of my computational sciences and for physics courses. I will also be exploring with this laptop. So I will be carrying it around everywhere. Now i believe that I will be (at one time or the other) doing programing of some sort (FORTRAN or C most probably) so idk OpenCL or CUDA might help. And I believe that's what I would be doing, as on my desktop i do most of those things. By most i mean i don't do any engineering/scientific computation as of yet, because i need learn it first

Im now confused as because im kinda a lil scared buying online, i never bought online ever in my life

[Aikimox]

@ True Sultan, IIRC, I answered your question a long time ago - you have 3 choices to fit your requirements - M6500 (Dell), 8740w(HP) and W70xx(Lenovo). They are almost identical in specs, performance and quality. Choose whichever you like.
I'd advise you to go for a 15" lappy but you also want to game on it, so - 17".

@RampageII,
Lol, man what do you have against the glowing head, anyway? Childhood memories? Horrible abduction experience?
I almost never even turn it on. On the other hand, this beast has the absolute build quality (but you can only realize it when you touch it), one of the best cooling systems in laptops (and that is very important, don't you think?), divine keyboard (and I've had ThinkPads for many years) and the perfect RGB LED 1200P screen (ok, only 8-bit per color).
Don't like the lights - turn them off. Without those, it's just a nice looking, solid, futuristic, black machine, that looks very appealing in any office (according to many co-workers and friends).

I'm really proud of having this system and after almost a year - the only thing I'd like to change, and the only reason for going HP - glossy -> antiglare. If I could find a proper way of turning my screen into matte without losing the image quality - I wouldn't even think of trying other systems in the nearest future

2 cents, of course.

[True_Sultan]

@ True Sultan, IIRC, I answered your question a long time ago - you have 3 choices to fit your requirements - M6500 (Dell), 8740w(HP) and W70xx(Lenovo). They are almost identical in specs, performance and quality. Choose whichever you like.
I'd advise you to go for a 15" lappy but you also want to game on it, so - 17".

@RampageII,
Lol, man what do you have against the glowing head, anyway? Childhood memories? Horrible abduction experience?
I almost never even turn it on. On the other hand, this beast has the absolute build quality (but you can only realize it when you touch it), one of the best cooling systems in laptops (and that is very important, don't you think?), divine keyboard (and I've had ThinkPads for many years) and the perfect RGB LED 1200P screen (ok, only 8-bit per color).
Don't like the lights - turn them off. Without those, it's just a nice looking, solid, futuristic, black machine, that looks very appealing in any office (according to many co-workers and friends).

I'm really proud of having this system and after almost a year - the only thing I'd like to change, and the only reason for going HP - glossy -> antiglare. If I could find a proper way of turning my screen into matte without losing the image quality - I wouldn't even think of trying other systems in the nearest future

2 cents, of course.

ooh i like thoughs choices...so what about the asus g73 or m17x...i might wanna check those out too :P

[RampageII]

@RampageII,
Lol, man what do you have against the glowing head, anyway? Childhood memories? Horrible abduction experience?
I almost never even turn it on. On the other hand, this beast has the absolute build quality (but you can only realize it when you touch it), one of the best cooling systems in laptops (and that is very important, don't you think?), divine keyboard (and I've had ThinkPads for many years) and the perfect RGB LED 1200P screen (ok, only 8-bit per color).
Don't like the lights - turn them off. Without those, it's just a nice looking, solid, futuristic, black machine , that looks very appealing in any office (according to many co-workers and friends).

I'm really proud of having this system and after almost a year - the only thing I'd like to change, and the only reason for going HP - glossy -> antiglare. If I could find a proper way of turning my screen into matte without losing the image quality - I wouldn't even think of trying other systems in the nearest future

2 cents, of course.

Haaah, looks like I struck a nerve. LOL
Look at you getting all defensive about your laptop.
You should work for their advertising department.
Hell, even I want to buy one now. Sign me up.


I'm sure it's a good quality machine.
Afterall, it was made with alien technology.

But spending $2.5K on a new laptop just because the screen is glossy....now that's crazy.

[Aikimox]

ooh i like thoughs choices...so what about the asus g73 or m17x...i might wanna check those out too :P

Those won't be perfect in pro apps (CAD,DCC, etc)
Other than that - G73 has plenty of issues, IMHO, including the overheating problem.

Haaah, looks like I struck a nerve. LOL
Look at you getting all defensive about your laptop.
You should work for their advertising department.
Hell, even I want to buy one now. Sign me up.


I'm sure it's a good quality machine.
Afterall, it was made with alien technology.

But spending $2.5K on a new laptop just because the screen is glossy....now that's crazy.

Nah, 2.5k will be back shortly - gonna sell one of them.
Honestly, I'd attempt a crazy mission - putting that DC2 screen into the M17X

[True_Sultan]

Those won't be perfect in pro apps (CAD,DCC, etc)
Other than that - G73 has plenty of issues, IMHO, including the overheating problem.



Nah, 2.5k will be back shortly - gonna sell one of them.
Honestly, I'd attempt a crazy mission - putting that DC2 screen into the M17X

Ah perfection is a want too, but I mean im not a professional, just a student and independent worker right. but couldn't the gaming cards give me equal amount of graphics to the gfx card on the workstations?