*HP 2510p Owners Lounge*

[nando4]

Originally Posted by rr3636

but back to the dhparm above. beside changing udma mode I saw that you could set standby mode on disk. Could this mean: SSD disk on full power & no standby, and the ZIF disk on standby after 5min? (this selection is not possible in the normal power options in windows).

THe 2510P's ICH8M I/O controller can do up to UDMA5/ATA100, 100MB/s read and 88.9MB/s write. UDMA6 interface speed is not available.

Yes, hdparm gives a lot more control over HDD standby than Windows power management. Example, you could run 'hdparm -y -S 12 /dev/sdb' to set standby timeout on the slave HDD to 1min and to standby now.

Could you post your X25M G2 SSD + ebay (Marvell) caddy crystaldiskmark 3.5 benchmarks please? Would like to compare against w0lla's X25M G2 SSD + newmodeus (Sunplus) benchmarks posted here.

[rr3636]

Originally Posted by nando4

Could you post your X25M G2 SSD + ebay (Marvell) caddy crystaldiskmark 3.5

I didn't findt this version, but found version 3.0 beta3.

update: I found out how to get win7 working on the newmodeus caddy also. read below for info.

ebay caddy:
I'v tested WinXP (remember to align disk) and Win7 flawlessly installed with this caddy. I don't know if Win7's TRIM function is properly supported, but it does pass along enough inforamtion to get the Intel's Toolbox manual TRIM tool to function (a very good thing). You can have partitions normally on this setup. I recomend you install on a fresh disk with no partitions to let win7 (if you install that one) partition it up for you and let it create the 100mb hidden partition (good thing to have). To get this caddy working with the ZIF HD you suposedly (acording to start of this thread) need to bridge pins on it's ZIF connectors. I tried that, and ended up with broken pin 1... so for me atleast I found that solution very hard. Because of that I have not yet been able to use both HD's at the same time.

newmodeus caddy:
WinXP: can be installed flawlessly. remember to align disk first.
Win7: access to both caddys: install win7 on the SSD with the ebay caddy. With only the newmodeus caddy: install win7 on the ZIF HD (align ZIF + SSD, preferable with equal size too on the partition). After one of these 2 installs you need to issue in admin mode in win7: "fsutil behavior set disabledeletenotify 1". Shut down. if you installed on the SSD, move the SSD to newmodeus caddy. if you installed on the ZIF HD, use any clone tool to clone the partition to the SSD. you don't need block by block things. Remember to use BMRWiz to set active on the SSD if you haven't done that before. Use baredit to undo the half speed on slave (important). One other thing... this caddy doesn't support multiple partitions on the SSD in Win7 (it's fine in XP).

Regarding the "fsutil" command above, it seems it affects ALL SSD's that has TRIM enabled in firmware and is connected to sertain PATA->SATA connectors (i.e. newmodeus). Read more up on it here: Disable TRIM on Win7

If you do go for the newmodeus caddy, you will lose TRIM. Currently warp & intel's toolbox tool (and linux also as far as it looks) is currently not able to TRIM raid devices - which newmodeus caddy is discovered as... So what you need is a replacement for TRIM: Tony-TRIM

So after much back and forth, I'v ended up with using newmodeus caddy with WinXP. I haven't tested the Tony-TRIM yet, but the Baredit trick works. With this caddy you don't need to hardwire stuff to get both HD's to work at same time (what I wanted).

I'm also using 4GB memory. With "superspeed ramdisk plus 10" I'm able to setup an ramdisk in the memory not accesible to windows; i.e a 950MB ramdisk without losing any of the memory maximum visible in windows. it supports saving/loading of image on boot/shutdown - so all temp files go there (browser, windows temp, antivirus log files, etc).

Here is the benchmarks for the different setups I tested:

[nando4]

Originally Posted by rr3636

update: I found out how to get win7 working on the newmodeus caddy also. read below for info.

A great piece of technical investigative work. +rep. The main difference here:

ebay sata-to-pata caddy: Marvell 88SA8040 sata-to-pata chip
newmodeus sata-to-pata caddy: Sunplus SPIF223A sata-to-pata chip

The Jmicron JM20330 is also used on the Runcore ProIV ZIF SSD.

[rr3636]

problems with BAR-edit 3.2 (only version I could find). Changing the setting to 1033 as indicated earlier in this thread do work. the 50% slave speed is turned into 100% speed on writes. so yes, workes.

But I found out that the "apply save on startup" doesn't apply on startup. Somehow my settings is not applied on boot. When I clicked "apply save on startup" it created a folder: "C:\BAR_Save" with 2 files within:

BAR_Edit.ini

[PCI]
Nb=1
Addr1=8000F954
Val1=00001033

StartUp.ini

[BAR_Edit]
SU=1

Anyone have a solution for me? Would be very nice to have this setting loaded on boot...

[nando4]

Originally Posted by rr3636

When I clicked "apply save on startup" it created a folder: "C:\BAR_Save" with 2 files within:

BAR_Edit.ini


StartUp.ini


Anyone have a solution for me? Would be very nice to have this setting loaded on boot...

copy c:\program files\BAR-Edit\BAR-Edit to c:\BAR_Save

[rr3636]

Originally Posted by nando4

copy c:\program files\BAR-Edit\BAR-Edit to c:\BAR_Save

Didn't help.
Anything else? change in boot files, registry, etc?

Edit:
Found it out. It had created an shortcut in "start->all programs->startup". I deleted that one, and re-created it from the c:\bar_save location. weird, but that fixed it.

[saturn_frak]

might be interesting:
HP 2530p Disassembly instructions
http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/globalcitiz...8820191116.pdf

[nando4]

INFO: solution to 30 second bios hang when using a caddy

There have been numerous mentions of 30second bios hangs when using a SSD or HDD in a caddy on a 2510P. I did some testing to identify the conditions causing this hang. Results on the right and summarized below: newmodeus caddy: when running as master, would cause the 30second hang with bios F.0E. Downgrading to F.0A saw no more bios hang. Upgrading the bios back to F.0E saw the return of the 30second bios boot hang. ebay caddy: has no boot hangs

caddy +500GB Fujitsu sata HDD mode bios F.0E F.0A newmodeus sata-to-pata master 30s hang no hang slave no hang ebay sata-to-pata master no hang

Solution: downgrade to F.0A bios from here if affected OR run the caddy as slave, or use a ebay caddy. This solution may also be applicable to pata HDDs as well.

[rr3636]

a problem. My screen on 2510p doesn't turn off. Running WinXP SP3

settings:
display properties->screen saver(blank)5min
display properties->power->turn off monitor 5min

after reboot the screen goes blank after 5min (not turn off). If I go into the power setting above and just click ok (without chaning anything) it turns off after 5min instead. I'v tried using screen saver timer before and after "turn off" timer without any changes.

I want my monitor to turn off after 5min without me going into power setting after each reboot.

Anyone have any suggestions?

[spiridow]

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