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rr3636 · 01-30-2010, 11:58 AM

recap: 2510p (latest bios), Intel SSD 80GB X25-M G2 (latest firmware), Newmodeus caddy, trying to get win7 on it...

what I'v done since last post above...

I made an USB linux stick (using unetbootin w/ubuntu-9.10-desktop), and then using hdparm & dd (actually had to preced the keywords with 'sudo' to get access). To 1.8" HD was successfully cloned with linux's DD to the SSD. Turned then off, disconnected the 1.8" HD, set the newmodeus to master and booted.

And.... win7 was booted up !! it said by baloon tip that the SSD was successfully installed also.
but now the downside.. whatever I did / clicked on, made the mouse pointer into an waiting state, and after about a minute or so gave an blue screen (error) and then the computer auto-reseted. At this point the SSD is not detected by the system, and I have to turn the computer off and then on to try again. Trying again doesn't help - just the same result. I also tried to go to safe mode - with same result (although no blue screen, but still not able to do anything). I also tried to reset settings in bios - with no help there either.

One special thing is that when newmodeus caddy is set to master it is detected as 'notebook computer' - i.e. master (that is when the 1.8" is disconnected). But having it on master makes the computer hang about 30-60sec on boot... Setting it to slave the hanging disapears, although booting to win7 is the same (can't do a thing).

Any more suggestions to what I should try?

rr3636 · 01-30-2010, 12:55 PM

found this link for someone else who had similar problems (different computer, etc):
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1458251

if we (2510p owners) should do a similar approach, which drivers should we download?
(this is reagrding my approach to get win7 to work - see post above)

nando4 · 01-30-2010, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rr3636

But having it on master makes the computer hang about 30-60sec on boot... Setting it to slave the hanging disapears, although booting to win7 is the same (can't do a thing).

Any more suggestions to what I should try?

Boot-hang after changing the master drive

There are some drive signatures that get stored in bios eeprom that appear to require overwriting to get rid of the hang. A couple of ways to try: (i) remove battery+AC power, press and hold power button for 1min to clear CMOS settings (ii) try to flash downgrade to F.0A (iii) remove CMOS eeprom chip from it's socket in the 1.8" drive bay for 1 minute, reinstall.

Some other random suggested steps to overcome your Win7 hang:

1. Disable all unnecessary devices in CMOS setup , boot Win7 and see if makes a difference. Could even disable Vpro/TPM which allows NIC to then be disabled in setup.

2. Try ebay caddy with Marvell sata-to-pata bridge chip. Hardset it to master. Set 1.8" HDD as slave or just disconnect it while testing. I have confirmed this 2.5" + 1.8" setup using my 500GB sata HDD and ebay caddy and believe newmodeus return policy would refund you due to incompatibility if found to be the root problem. The Marvell chip is also slightly better performing, but uses 1W versus 0.8W. Order ASAP if wanting to try as the shipping takes a while.

rr3636 · 02-03-2010, 04:22 AM

updates of what I'v tried:

Quote:

Originally Posted by nando4

(i) remove battery+AC power, press and hold power button for 1min to clear CMOS settings

This did not make any change about hanging long if ssd is set to master

Quote:

Originally Posted by nando4

1. Disable all unnecessary devices in CMOS setup , boot Win7 and see if makes a difference.

No difference

Quote:

Originally Posted by nando4

Could even disable Vpro/TPM which allows NIC to then be disabled in setup.

I did not see any new options to disable the NIC in bios after this. Win7 now goes blue screen almost instantly if booted from the ssd.

nando4 · 02-03-2010, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by rr3636

Win7 now goes blue screen almost instantly if booted from the ssd.

Have you ordered the ebay caddy? w0lla also has a X25M G2 in a newmodeus caddy, working at least with XP and Linux. Perhaps w0lla can assist?

w0lla · 02-03-2010, 11:20 AM

Well I had (have) the same problems as rr3636. Its just vista/7 which gives problems, Xp and ubuntu installed without problems. Having the caddy on master, gives the bios boot hickup, with and without the 1.8 pata installed.

Toke · 02-04-2010, 06:05 PM

Pew, things aren't going too well with my Runcore IV 128 GB PATA. I am now on my 3rd one, after two RMA to MyDigitalDiscount:

Disk 1. I got it, and started to run the clone programme. It then showed to be only 64 GB, despite that it clearly said 128 GB on the label and all numbers was for the 128 GB. Weird! Anyway I sent it back and received a new one. Proper 128 GB this time.

Disk 2. Installed Win7 after some troubles. I went via the original Vista recovery disks to reformat disk. I then installed a fresh Win7 on the disk (no upgrade). Worked fine for a week. Fast and nice. I made all sorts of driver updates and program installations on the way, and suddenly it started to freeze soon after windows loading. Again and again and again. I then fresh reinstalled everything, and loaded all drivers with the help of HP SoftPaq Download Manager. But really soon it started to make trouble again, freezing right on or immediately after windows load. Interestingly, it works all fine in Safe mode. Despite trying (loading the disk hard) I have not been able to get it to freeze in safe mode. Anyway, after having some (good) contact with the Runcore support ("probably bad blocks"), I made yet another RMA to MyDigitalDiscount.

Disk 3. Got it today. Installed Win7 again via formatting from original recovery dvds. Started to load all drivers through HP SoftPaq Download Manager. Plus windows updates. And AntiVirus (Norton). Then....again... freeze after reboot and Windows loading. Aaarghh!

Again, Safe mode works fine.

This leads me to think that maybe it isn't a hardware thing after all. Is there a conflict with the antivirus? with the regular Win updates? With any of the HP drivers? Can any of you others with Runcore 128 ZIF PATA confirm if you have used the HP SoftPaq Download Manager and installed all recommended drivers with success?

Any other ideas?

nando4 · 02-04-2010, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Toke

Pew, things aren't going too well with my Runcore IV 128 GB PATA. I am now on my 3rd one, after two RMA to MyDigitalDiscount:

This leads me to think that maybe it isn't a hardware thing after all. Is there a conflict with the antivirus? with the regular Win updates? With any of the HP drivers? Can any of you others with Runcore 128 ZIF PATA confirm if you have used the HP SoftPaq Download Manager and installed all recommended drivers with success?

Any other ideas?

Since it works in Safe Mode, sounds like a OS build problem. Could confirm that by loading the OS+software and testing on your ZIF HDD, then when satified it's all OK, clone it to your Runcore ProIV SSD. 64GB ProIV has worked very well for me.

Toke · 02-05-2010, 02:12 PM

That would be a way of doing it. I'lll try to try it it if this fails again. I have Win7 on my original 100 GB HDD, but that was a Win7 upgrade from the original Vista. Maybe if I did a fresh install on the HDD it would hang as well... Hmmm, somehow I am quite happy to have one disk (!) that works, and doesn't feel like experimenting too much with that :-)

I have not been able to clone the disk to the SSD, with any of my three attempts. Just doesn't work (lack of patiens perhaps, I haven't got the time to track down why it won't clone. I find it easier to just do fresh install).

Anyway, I can update that I have now run it for a full day with a minimum of hardware drivers installed besides those originally installed during Win 7 installation (only adds from HP are Synaptics and WWAN drivers (incl. wireless assistant and Sierra watcher). And i skipped Norton for Win Security Essentials instead, just to test. Besides that I only installed Firefox, Thunderbird, MSOffice 2007 and Adobe CS4 software so far. And, as said, it works great so far.

*keep the hopes up*

Toke · 02-05-2010, 02:30 PM

One more thing,
When I try to do the quite-fan-mod I get an error at the end of the cmd process "Error: could not access the registry path: System\CurrentControlSet\Services\ACPI\Parameters\DSDI\HP___\nc2500\00010000"

Do you happen to know why? And would it be possible to do the mod in the registry directly, or somewhere else? Cheerio.