Intel HD Graphics 4000 is as good as a 48 shader Nvidia card?

[yknyong1]

CineBench R11.5 should get around 5.6 for CPU. Try throttlestop to see if the Turbo can be unlocked to full potential.

[IntelUser]

Ok, I wouldn't call it "throttling." Probably the Turbo expires pretty damn quick and goes back to base clocks. It's not just Cinebench. Also the iGPU results are way lower on 3DMark.

Comparison with Notebookcheck's 3610QM:

3DMark06 CPU: 4407/6099
3DMark Vantage CPU: 16438/21508

X264 is too low too. At least it shouldn't be slower than the 3610QM. I could see that it may be intentional. 45W may be too much for 11-inch form factor. That may mean the 35W 3612QM would fare lot better.

[HTWingNut]

I guess I'm struggling to understand this then. 100% CPU use like Prime95 pegs all four cores at 3.1GHz for over an hour, no problem. Other programs as well. Only Cinebench shows this phenomenon. Temps are also only about 78-80C compared with Prime95 at 92C.

Actually the 3612QM doesn't boost at all when the dedicated GPU is active as was found in the Sager W110ER forums.

Throttlestop does some funky things with this Ivy Bridge, although I'm not real familiar with Throttlestop.

[HTWingNut]

As far as HD 4000 / 3610QM is concerned, the issue is non-standard resolutions. The results from notebook check are at 1280x768 not the 3DMark06 and Vantage standard of 1280x1024. They do this because it fits on the screen, but imho, it only causes confusion. Here's my run at 1280x768 which matches up to Notebookcheck. Same thing goes for 3DMark Vantage.

[HTWingNut]

As far as Cinebench, I set it to use the HD 4000 instead of GT 650m and performance went up considerably...

[seasalt29]

As far as Cinebench, I set it to use the HD 4000 instead of GT 650m and performance went up considerably...

How good is the 2D image quality on the HD 4000? Are there any problems with YouTube flash videos (e.g., artifacts) or any other flash content? Is text razor sharp?

[lebob23]

interesting stuff I am going to wait for HD 5000 wich will get 10k in 3dmark06 so that I can play games from 2010-2011 which is IMO the best graphics I am going to need for my 1024x768 plasma. I feel like that will me the limit for my graphical needs after that its on to the cloud...

[HTWingNut]

3DMark06 is far from a decent benchmark to base anything on. It's over six years old and very CPU dependent, meaning you can have a very fast CPU with crappy GPU and still score high. Unless you plan on playing games primarily form 2008 and earlier, it's far from a good judge of gaming performance for anything new.

But HD 5000 I doubt will score 10000 3DMarks, I guess close, but that won't be out for over a year now. And then the 4K screens will be coming out, so you'll need a GPU to drive a screen 3840x2160 resolution.

[Althernai]

But HD 5000 I doubt will score 10000 3DMarks, I guess close, but that won't be out for over a year now.

If what AnandTech and SemiAccurate are saying about Haswell is true, then 10000 3DMarks from HD 5000 would be very disappointing. It should be closer to 20000 (although of course it is indeed a year away and these are all just rumors).

[lebob23]

3DMark06 is far from a decent benchmark to base anything on. It's over six years old and very CPU dependent, meaning you can have a very fast CPU with crappy GPU and still score high. Unless you plan on playing games primarily form 2008 and earlier, it's far from a good judge of gaming performance for anything new.

But HD 5000 I doubt will score 10000 3DMarks, I guess close, but that won't be out for over a year now. And then the 4K screens will be coming out, so you'll need a GPU to drive a screen 3840x2160 resolution.

I don't see the point in gaming at 2160p from 12 feet away it all looks the same. But maybe you are right and 720p is low I guess 1080p would be better but I don't have perfect vision anyway.

I don't see the point in playing the latest and greatest I still enjoy playing Grid and Burnout paradise. I understand the whole idea for neverending improvements but I don't think graphics for gaming is the way to go. Developers need to focus on gameplay more.

I assure you that even while playing sports games it is useless to see the players face the number is enough.