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Old 08-02-2009, 11:39 PM   #321 (permalink)
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Thermal paste is only meant to fill up microgaps/valleys in the cpu die surface to allow maximum heat conductivity to the heatsink.
Read and prove me wrong.
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I think there is more than enough data in this thread alone to prove you wrong, and plenty of naysayers who either said "Wow, i was wrong"...or who slinked back off to the shadows or others threads to tell people how much they know.

If you are too lazy or dumb to read through the 2-3 threads here that show the results, or my testing, or that of the ICD7 people....or the numerous people who participated in testing, then we are both wasting our time.

Let me also add that I've been using ICD7 on my CPU and chipset for about 6 months without a single issue, running 24/7.
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Believe it or not i actually read every post that happens in this subforum (kind of my job)

And i also don't care if you get in a hissy fit over my suggestion. I want it to be civil in here. If people disagree with you (right or wrong) you are perfectly free to correct them, but you will do so in an a civil manner.

There has been alot of good info in the thread and i want it to keep going, but getting overly defensive over a difference of opinion does teach anything. If you have another view, then show it. Teach through spreading knowledge not by getting uptight when your view is called into question.

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Let me also add that I've been using ICD7 on my CPU and chipset for about 6 months without a single issue, running 24/7.
If you stop being a ICD7 fanboy for a second and actually read, i am not going against the ICD7's performance or quality. I am refer to its application.

Why dont you go email ICD7 about filling up 1mm gaps with their thermal paste and we can settle this

I am not a troll and im not giving bad advice.

This is what happens when you try to fill up that ".5 to 1mm" gap with paste:

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hey everyone I just tried my icd7 today on my benq s41 laptop and i gotta say, epic failure on my part. I threw away all my old thermal pads, and after applying icd7, my gpu temp went insane, it reached 100 degrees (normally its only 75). So I immediately shut it down and know i did something wrong. My guess is that my gpu and heatsink aren't touching. What are some other possibility? I also threw away the old pads for my gpu memory..is it ok to put icd on those?

most importantly, is it ok to put a thick layer of icd to replace a pad? I dont have any more pads and that seems like the only repairing option for my gpu

thanks guys, any help is appreciated
Proves my point about thermal pad gaps and fixed heatsinks heights. You cannot just replace it with thermal paste unless your heatsink is not fixed and can compress it down to the die/surface which yours probably could.
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If you stop being a ICD7 fanboy for a second and actually read, i am not going against the ICD7's performance or quality. I am refer to its application.

Why dont you go email ICD7 about filling up 1mm gaps with their thermal paste and we can settle this

I am not a troll and im not giving bad advice.

This is what happens when you try to fill up that ".5 to 1mm" gap with paste:



Proves my point about thermal pad gaps and fixed heatsinks heights. You cannot just replace it with thermal paste unless your heatsink is not fixed and can compress it down to the die/surface which yours probably could.
If you note the OP there was asking if they should use a thicker piece of paste to cover the chip ans chip set, and yes he should. You can't apply this as any other TIM. It must be applied in a larger drop/glob and allowed to spread out.

I've also used this on the "GAP" of the heat pipe and GPU heatsink on my XT5000T with great success...............
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Do you realise how much air pockets that will create?

Proper application: http://innovationcooling.com/applica...structions.htm
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Believe it or not it doesn't. The primary reason is that unlike the thin silver or ceramic TIM's this does not boil out.................
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If you stop being a ICD7 fanboy for a second and actually read, i am not going against the ICD7's performance or quality. I am refer to its application.

Why dont you go email ICD7 about filling up 1mm gaps with their thermal paste and we can settle this

I am not a troll and im not giving bad advice.

This is what happens when you try to fill up that ".5 to 1mm" gap with paste:



Proves my point about thermal pad gaps and fixed heatsinks heights. You cannot just replace it with thermal paste unless your heatsink is not fixed and can compress it down to the die/surface which yours probably could.
Right, so one example....a person who probably didnt apply enough, or like you didnt read anything posted in any of these threads......proves your point, and trumps the dozens of people who have posted positive results, ranging from 3C to almost 20C How do you explain the results of everyone else thats posted here supporting the testing?

As to being a "fanboi", I am a professional in the industry.....who spent more than a little time on this subject, and realized that there was a solution to the temp issues many were seeing with the thermal pads. I tested this on a couple notebook and countless graphics cards, then went to ICD7 and ran it by them, then posted the results here...to help people.

If you've applied the paste, and let it cure (by cure i mean settle), you'll notice that it settles to an almost wax consistency. (Before settling its almost putty like). As I said, I've been running a desktop replacement notebook 24/7 for about six months with no issues at all.

let me close this by saying that thermal pads are almost worthless. While the parts not compressed appear thick, the parts sandwiched between the heatsink and core is almost paper thin. A thermal compound with the viscosity of ICD7, applied as shown in the pics in this thread, and the video I shot, has no problem filling that small gap.
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Do you realise how much air pockets that will create?

Proper application: http://innovationcooling.com/applica...structions.htm
Thats for CPU application, not for chipset or IC application.
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I wasn't trolling. Just because it can work doesn't mean it'll work forever like that, or work flawlessly each time.

And I'll be the first one to attest to thermal pads being next to worthless, but I'd still have some trepidation replacing something that works fine to begin with. Even so, getting replacement pads probably isn't a bad idea should you ever have to get your notebook serviced. Especially with a northbridge problem - if the notebook craps out, and you've obviously removed/replaced the TIM, they're going to probably rule that as the cause and put you in breach of warranty for "altering" the stock configuration.
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