nvidia GT 650m vs GTX 670m

[ahnman341]

like everyone else, i'm looking forward to the release of ivy bridge and whatnot. two specific laptops caught my eye and i'm trying to decide between the two

both laptops are pretty similar:
sager np6165: Sager NP6165 / Clevo W150ER - XOTIC PC - Sager 15.6" Laptop
sager np9130: Sager NP9130 / Clevo P151EM1 - XOTIC PC - Sager 15.6" Laptop

similarities:
1920x1080 15.6' screens
same processor options

differences:
np6165 ~$200-$300 cheaper
np6165 has gt 650m while np9130 has gtx 670m
np6165 has better estimated battery life.
np6165 has two hard drive compartments while np9130 has one hard drive compartment.

from my point of view, it looks like the np6165 is the better laptop (especially because of longer battery life and the two hard drive compartments). but before i decide on the np6165, what is the real world difference between the two graphics cards?

i'm a pretty hardcore gamer and i'm definitely going to be holding onto the laptop for 4 years+. do you think i'll be ok running up and coming titles on the gt 650m? or should i step up and grab the gtx 670?

[BlackSabs]

If your a hardcore gamer and plan to use this machine for 4+ years get the best GPU you can afford. The difference between the two cards is 20-30%. The battery life is directly related to the GPU. Lesser card = longer battery life.

[Botsu]

The difference between the two should be ~20-25% I think.

Hardcore gamer / plan to keep your notebook for 4 years => kinda inconsistent.

But at all events if gaming and raw power matters to you avoid both the GT 650M and the GTX 670M. Get a Radeon 6990M or a GTX 675M or if you can afford to wait a few months for the new Radeon 7970M / GTX 680M.

[Karamazovmm]

also if you are a hardcore gamer you have to see that the 2012 gpus are coming and you should be waiting for some good improvements regarding last year.

For example the 670m is a rebadged 570m and the 580m is a good 20% faster than it already, now known as 675m.

We are expecting the 7970m to be 20-30% more powerful than the 580m

[Mk017]

gpu can be upgraded with 9130, not the 6165. if plan to keep in 4 years. 9130 is a better option as you can upgrade the gpu down the road.

[nissangtr786]

Whatever you do don't get the 670m, if you are desperate wait for something like the 7950m or 7970m or 7750m or get a gtx660m. No point getting old gen rebadged cards take take 2x more power to do the same thing and the laptop is more thicker in size and weighs more and battery life goes down by a couple of hours.

Also wait for ivy bridge.

[ahnman341]

is there an ETA for the 7970m or gtx660m?

[s2odin]

is there an ETA for the 7970m or gtx660m?

The 660M is a sidestep from the 570m. It uses less power but is also slower than the 570M.

The 7970M has no release date.

The 675M is a better choice as it is currently the fastest out, but the 680M should be out sometime in summer / fall.

[Botsu]

is there an ETA for the 7970m or gtx660m?

The GTX 660M is right around the corner. I don't suggest you get a laptop with one either. I'd say it has more pros than cons against the GTX 670M since it's not too far behind, overall much more efficient and probably even better in some cases (because newer arch which is better for DX11 stuff), but it will be lacking in power if you plan on keeping it for 4y.

The 7970/680M should better it by >=60%. ETA is around end of may/june for both I think.

[imglidinhere]

The GTX 660M is right around the corner. I don't suggest you get a laptop with one either. I'd say it has more pros than cons against the GTX 670M since it's not too far behind, overall much more efficient and probably even better in some cases (because newer arch which is better for DX11 stuff), but it will be lacking in power if you plan on keeping it for 4y.

The 7970/680M should better it by >=60%. ETA is around end of may/june for both I think.

That's difficult to understand since you phrased it so oddly. It sounds like you're saying it's soon to be released, but don't get one... o.O

The GTX 660M was stated to be ~5% slower than the 570M/670M but with the power draw of a 460M. So it'd draw around 45-50w instead of 75-80w.