nvidia GT 650m vs GTX 670m

[mtrein]

if you are a hardcore gamer you will not want old gen technology rebadged and wait for something like the 7950m or 7970m or gtx680m which will take less power consumption and mae the gtx670m look like a basic card.

Its like saying to someone what would you prefer a 2.4ghz 65nm core 2 duo with 90nm high end graphics or a 3ghz 45nm core 2 duo with 65nm midrange graphics. Now the mid range would easily be better as it will have a higher Overclock possibility and draw less power power consumption.

Put it this way I would expect the gtx660m to smoke the gtx670m once overclocked as the gtx660m would overclock so much more. I have no idea why people want to get power hungry old gen cards when new gen cards are coming in a month. I don't care if a 670m beats a 660m easily.

At the end of the say if you like a car that does 0-100 in lets say 10 seconds and does 40mpg = gtx670m vs a car that does 0-100 in lets say 11.5 seconds and does 80mpg and you can add tune it like overclocking graphics card and have head room to make it go 50% faster gtx660m vs the gtx 670m which has not much head room as it is already at its peak with lets say care wise stage 4 turbo.

My point is who cares if the gtx670m is faster after all it is basically 2 and a half year technology. You might as well buy a gtx 480m afterall you won't notice any difference really. By the way a gtx 660m beats a gtx 480m on 3dmark11 and the gt 650m is about equal to a gtx480m and these 65/60m cards only take 35-45w.

Go ahead and buy "new technology" just for the sake of it, if you are happy with that. And kid yourself some more by showing your friends how your power bill was $5 cheaper when they mock your 15fps in games they run fluently.

[saincteye]

Can we keep it real please?
Your comparisons are extreme and frankly not applicable.
The real reason to pick either a GPU or a car is NOT because its newer, but because of what it can do.

The 660m and 670m are aimed at two different markets.
A hardcore gamer (with sufficient funds) is not going to choose a 660m as its aimed at a balance of power consumption, price, and potency. The 670m sacrifices power consumption, and gets decent performance/price.

The use for a laptop with an enthusiast-class mobile GPU is usually:
1) gaming while plugged in - the primary concern is performance, of which the 670m wins...
2) battery life while not plugged in - the primary concern is power draw, but since its likely optimus, it isn't that big of a deal. Both the 660m and 670m will be turned off while the Intel integrated GPU handles the video.

The 660m will likely overclock, but once again, it will be hard pressed to reach the 670m.

Where the 660m will shine is in balanced value-priced laptops and lighter and thinner laptops focused on mobility. (and just how much gaming you can do on it...)

The 660m will also find a market in those people (like me) who have moved their gaming to the desktop, (where the real hardcore gamers are honestly) but still want to have their laptops perform well without having to deplete their "new desktop GPU" fund.

Yeah , that is where I am looking at too , using a 660m at a 14" 1366x768 ...compare to 670m running @ 1920x1080 , but price point is the breaker , if the 660m can run somewhere between 780 to 950 , it will be a winner for me since 670m with I7 will run me up to 1300 to 1500 . (that is a GTX 680 right there !!!!)

[Karamazovmm]

@kernelpanic

he is always like that, just ignore it

[Kevin]

Yeah , that is where I am looking at too , using a 660m at a 14" 1366x768 ...compare to 670m running @ 1920x1080 , but price point is the breaker , if the 660m can run somewhere between 780 to 950 , it will be a winner for me since 670m with I7 will run me up to 1300 to 1500 . (that is a GTX 680 right there !!!!)

You aren't likely to find a 660M for less than ~$1,100.

[mtrein]

But who cares, right, as long as you have the newest technology.

[maxheap]

Go ahead and buy "new technology" just for the sake of it, if you are happy with that. And kid yourself some more by showing your friends how your power bill was $5 cheaper when they mock your 15fps in games they run fluently.

that's a funny guy, don't think about what he said too much he indeed likes new tech, 28nm feels like gold to him

anyway, I think buying 670m doesn't really make a ton of sense, definitely the ability to game 1080p is a nice thing indeed, but the performance of 660m should be slightly worse than a 570m/670m, and indeed new tech means better driver support, better clockability, better durability (well, in most cases ) hence longevity..

even though 570m is NOT 2 years old (@nissangtr, man, at least put some sense into it), it is still about a year old card..

[KernalPanic]

The difference between the 660m and the 670m is roughly the same as that between the 670m/570m and 675m/580m.

The 570m has been woefully underestimated at every turn. It is quite a solid GPU and is available at reasonable prices for how much oomph you get.

The 670m is essentially a factory-BIOS-patched and OC'd 570m.

If you were purchasing now, the 670m is not a bad choice.
If you can wait a month or two, you might have higher-performance options (with higher prices to go with them) available. However, this is almost always the case. :-)

[Cloudfire]

Purchasing now would be a very bad idea

[mtrein]

The difference between the 660m and the 670m is roughly the same as that between the 670m/570m and 675m/580m.

The 570m has been woefully underestimated at every turn. It is quite a solid GPU and is available at reasonable prices for how much oomph you get.

The 670m is essentially a factory-BIOS-patched and OC'd 570m.

If you were purchasing now, the 670m is not a bad choice.
If you can wait a month or two, you might have higher-performance options (with higher prices to go with them) available. However, this is almost always the case. :-)

This and the room to OC the 570 make it rock solid for today's games, given the price range it stands at. The 660 will surely have a much higher price tag when it comes out.

Indeed battery life should be better with the 660, but you are still going to have to compromise in the end... So this point is moot and it is a foolish thing to discuss.

[mtrein]

Purchasing now would be a very bad idea

Why? Have you looked at prices? Do you think newer releases will be on the same price par?