HURRAY: Nvidia 600 series not just Fermi!! (Kepler)

[R3d]

I fear we have a different 'native resolution' here. And why would they lie? What do they gain? A cookie?

I was talking about 1080p and he has a 1080p display. "Max out" means maxing all the settings. Which means the highest resolution that your display supports. Otherwise "max out any game with 40+ fps" would be a pointless statement since any mid range card would be able to do that if you ran games in 240p or something.

wow, I am done with this thread, I explained myself to CloudFire as he is a respected member of this forum for me, but not to you, yes we are lying all the time, happy?

Cloud, I hope you knew what we meant (Me, Slick, Geo) all along the way. I truely enjoyed every single post of yours since the beginning of this thread. But I won't be dragged into this kinda fight where people likes to frame others without evidence..

So you're telling me that you run BF3 with 8x msaa, everything on ultra, with HBAO and FXAA and you never dip below 40fps?

So all the desktop 7870 BF3 benchmarks done by reviewers are wrong?

[Cloudfire]

wow, I am done with this thread, I explained myself to CloudFire as he is a respected member of this forum for me, but not to you, yes we are lying all the time, happy?

Cloud, I hope you knew what we meant (Me, Slick, Geo) all along the way. I truely enjoyed every single post of yours since the beginning of this thread. But I won't be dragged into this kinda fight where people likes to frame others without evidence..

I know what you guys meant. Me bored again as usual
7970M is a very good GPU, 1-2 years from now it will probably struggle to get decent frames with more games. Then you would wish you had the Geforce Experience, especially if you are lazy like I am. Nah I`m just kidding, nobody really NEEDS the program really. Its nice though

BTW, how did everything go with the 7970M? Did you get a new one in return? Or is it money lost in the drain?

[maxheap]

@Cloud, probably it is money down the drain a very tech savvy person will look at it, we'll see..

4xMSAA never went below 40fps (medium post, HBAO and 8xAA), I don't see any point of improving on these as picture quality remains the SAME. And this is with ZERO app support and driver support, so yeah I am confident it can push all the way to max keeping +30fps average with a slight OC. AND THIS IS THE LAST THING I AM POSTING HERE.

[R3d]

I guess people just don't know what "maxed out" means.

[Cloudfire]

I counted 5 games where the 7870 didn`t get over 40FPS.
Metro 2033 totally slayed it 21 FPS lol (and not 8XMSAA). King Arthur 34FPS with not even 1080p so maybe 30 FPS and hardly playable (Not the highest settings btw 4xFSAA), 38 FPS with Battlefield 3 on High settings and not the highest settings (8xMSAA would be hard like R3d says), Batman got 36 FPS with 8xMSAA, Crysis got 41FPS but was not with 1080p so maybe 37FPS there.

I know I`m cherrypicking now people but this shows that not even 7870 which IS better than 7970M can get 40FPS+ with the highest settings. 1 year from now there will be more.

How much better is the 7870 to the 7970M btw? I mean stock clocks

6125 vs 5600 in GPU score with 3DMark11:
10%

25000 vs 20027 in GPU score with Vantage
25%

So lets assume the 7870 is 15%ish faster.

7970M should get around (With extremely high settings):
Metro2033: 21FPS x 0.85 = 17.9FPS
King Arthur: 25FPS
BF3: 32.3FPS
Batman: 30.6FPS
Crysis 2: 31.4FPS

[Torment78]

I counted 5 games where the 7870 didn`t get over 40FPS.
Metro 2033 totally slayed it 21 FPS lol (and not 8XMSAA). King Arthur 34FPS with not even 1080p so maybe 30 FPS and hardly playable (Not the highest settings btw 4xFSAA), 38 FPS with Battlefield 3 on High settings and not the highest settings (8xMSAA would be hard like R3d says), Batman got 36 FPS with 8xMSAA, Crysis got 41FPS but was not with 1080p so maybe 37FPS there.

I know I`m cherrypicking now people but this shows that not even 7870 which IS better than 7970M can get 40FPS+ with the highest settings. 1 year from now there will be more.

30 fps is to low 60fps is what every one should stride for
i set my settings always so thy never will hit below 55 fps and dont pass 120fps im using a 120hz screen

[Cloudfire]

30 fps is to low 60fps is what every one should stride for
i set my settings always so thy never will hit below 55 fps and dont pass 120fps im using a 120hz screen

I agree. Especially with shootem up games like Battlefield and Crysis one should strive for high framerates

[Meaker]

I know what you guys meant. Me bored again as usual
7970M is a very good GPU, 1-2 years from now it will probably struggle to get decent frames with more games. Then you would wish you had the Geforce Experience, especially if you are lazy like I am. Nah I`m just kidding, nobody really NEEDS the program really. Its nice though

BTW, how did everything go with the 7970M? Did you get a new one in return? Or is it money lost in the drain?

Enjoy waiting for the 680M then, I don't think it will be any faster.

[Cloudfire]

Enjoy waiting for the 680M then, I don't think it will be any faster.

I agree. I don`t think it will be either. I`m waiting for the legendary 7950M or whatever Nvidia push out that is around 75W btw
Guess I will be waiting forever

Oh well, I don`t need a notebook ASAP anyways but I must have one before the end of summer

[GeoCake]

The 7870 can play all 3, maxed out, with acceptable frame rates @ 1080p. My 7970M is OCed to desktop 7870 speeds and does so too.

I am sticking with is. I like to overclock my laptop components for the best possible performance (my beast can deal with the heat), as stock is too underclocked for me. XM chip at 4Ghz, RAM flashed from 1600 to 1866, etc. This is why I am using 7870 figures because my GPU performs at the same level.

Anyway, since you're posting pics I will do so too, all from the same source for a fair comparison.

Metro 2033 http://static.techspot.com/articles-...h/Metro_02.png 56

BF3 http://static.techspot.com/articles-...nch/BF3_02.png 51

Crysis 2 http://static.techspot.com/articles-.../Crysis_02.png 35

These resolutions are actually higher than 1080p... yeah. Plus I have played Crysis and I'd say the average was in the 40s... not to mention that we are still waiting for official driver support from AMD.

Furthermore, I think that the level of AA you have on is preference more than anything (sometimes too much and I find things too blurry), so that cannot contribute towards a game being 'maxed out' or not. Same thing for frame rates, it's up to whomever to decide what they are comfortable with. Not you.