Razer Blade -- Discuss

[hockeymass]

Originally Posted by jeremyshaw

only a few elitists in a forum dedicated to laptops would talk about "how stupid it is." Other people would either say it's too pricy, or find a comparible laptop... say the MBP 17 (before realizing what Razer just did there ).

Then again, there are people who hate on Apple, too, so whatever.

How is it elitist to point out that a midrange PC marketed as a gaming machine and priced in the stratosphere (the chief knock on PC gaming being "dead" is the high price of hardware) is stupid?

[Melody]

Like I said in the other thread about the Blade, you only need one of 2 things to make something sell (preferably both):
- 1 or 2 features that set your product apart from the competition
- a solid marketing strategy

How do you think overpriced things like Bose, Monster Cable, Beats by Dr Dre and Bang & Olufsen TVs sell? It's because they find a way to market their products to a specific niche of people who are willing to spend for them.

[hockeymass]

Originally Posted by Melody

Like I said in the other thread about the Blade, you only need one of 2 things to make something sell (preferably both):
- 1 or 2 features that set your product apart from the competition
- a solid marketing strategy

How do you think overpriced things like Bose, Monster Cable, Beats by Dr Dre and Bang & Olufsen TVs sell? It's because they find a way to market their products to a specific niche of people who are willing to spend for them.

So what is the niche for this?

[Melody]

Originally Posted by hockeymass

So what is the niche for this?

What was the niche for the iPad when it came out (remember all the "it's a big iTouch" comments)? What's the niche for a 5000$ TV that's made of the same anodized metal as a Lamborghini? What's the market for an HDMI cable that costs 50 times what you can get at the Dollar Store with the same performance? If you can't find one, you make it.

I'm not saying they'll succeed, I'm just saying that it's happened in the past that there have been overpriced, underperforming products that have managed and quite well at that.

[alexUW]

They offer the most expensive gaming laptop with a GT 555m GPU. Something to be proud of.

Razer will sell some units, but this will be seen more of a luxury item, than a industry changer.

What I would like is a gaming laptop that replaces the DVD drive with a caddy that hold a hidden wireless mouse, that can be used for gaming. The mouse would have to be very thin, but that would make a lot more sense to me.


I wish them luck, but Razer will miserably fail.

[jono123]

Originally Posted by hockeymass

Alienwares at least have the performance to justify their position as gaming PCs and somewhat justify the price. The Razer won't play games well, won't travel well at 17 inches, and certainly won't fit into anyone's budget.

Imagine a Venn diagram with these circles: "People who will spend $2,800 on a PC", "PC gamers", and "People who want a PC with midrange performance". There is no point of intersection between those three. There is no market for this computer.

I don't see how you can say "this is a fine product, except for the graphics card". The graphics card is the CORNERSTONE of any gaming PC.

This product is all about mobile gaming. Perhaps you should draw another circle in your venn diagram and include people that are mobile and wish to play Pc games on the fly.

Yes this is expensive as is AW. Why are you saying 'it wont travel well' , when its so light and is an inch thick? It is half the weight of an m18.That brick isn't the least bit portable.

Your tribalism is stupid. Be glad that other firms are entering the mobile gaming market. You dont have to buy it and this reminds me of many threads knocking AW for similar reasons.

[hockeymass]

Originally Posted by jono123

This product is all about mobile gaming. Perhaps you should draw another circle in your venn diagram and include people that are mobile and wish to play Pc games on the fly.

Yes this is expensive as is AW. Why are you saying 'it wont travel well' , when its so light and is an inch thick? It is half the weight of an m18.That brick isn't the least bit portable.

Your tribalism is stupid. Be glad that other firms are entering the mobile gaming market. You dont have to buy it and this reminds me of many threads knocking AW for similar reasons.

My tribalism? I own an HP, which is coincidentally faster, lighter, and cheaper than this. Is it as pretty? No. That's about it.

My point is that I think the number of units that will move will be closer to zero than 1000.

Edit: Oh, and my HP has an advantage in that the 15.6 inch screen doesn't look nearly as crappy when forced to run games in 1366x768 as a 17 inch screen does.

[hockeymass]

Originally Posted by Melody

What was the niche for the iPad when it came out (remember all the "it's a big iTouch" comments)? What's the niche for a 5000$ TV that's made of the same anodized metal as a Lamborghini? What's the market for an HDMI cable that costs 50 times what you can get at the Dollar Store with the same performance? If you can't find one, you make it.

I'm not saying they'll succeed, I'm just saying that it's happened in the past that there have been overpriced, underperforming products that have managed and quite well at that.

But what's the niche?

[HTWingNut]

Originally Posted by hockeymass

My tribalism? I own an HP, which is coincidentally faster, lighter, and cheaper than this. Is it as pretty? No. That's about it.

My point is that I think the number of units that will move will be closer to zero than 1000.

Edit: Oh, and my HP has an advantage in that the 15.6 inch screen doesn't look nearly as crappy when forced to run games in 1366x768 as a 17 inch screen does.

Yeah, I was going to use the DV6 as an example. And if you wanted to use the 17" vs 15.6" argument, they make a DV7t too! You're paying the extra $1800 for a touchscreen LCD in a bad spot on the keyboard, and about 0.5" thinner, and maybe a better LCD.

[Melody]

Originally Posted by hockeymass

But what's the niche?

Anyone who's willing to buy the BS marketing they're going to attempt?