9800m GS/GT VERY hot

[fadingxero]

Hi guys,
I use an Asus g50VT-X1 laptop that has either a 9800m GS (as shown when I just updated the driver, as well as the sticker) OR a 9800m GT (as shown by all my gpu programs like GPUZ before the driver update).
Anyhow it runs.. quite hot.

For instance, when I'm playing a game the graphics card can hit up to 105 Celsius. This seems to throttle the graphics card and drop my fps to around 3.

Even idling yesterday/ Just using AIM and the internet (without videos, generally reading) my GPU stayed in the mid to low 70s.

At this moment, with 1 Internet window open (Chrome) + GPU-Z, I'm getting a temperature of 67 degrees.

I tried to use a few programs, but RivaTuner and SpeedFan don't seem to work (Rivatuner lacks the fan adjustment tab and SpeedFan does not detect any fans). Expertool gives me some sort of error, due to an incorrect display.

I do not know what company made my graphics card (other than nVidia), otherwise if it is EVGA I may try their program.

This is getting frustrating, getting throttled on a game is NOT fun, especially when it is online.

Anything you guys can offer? Oh, since I did not have any canned air, I used a hair dryer on the cool settings to see if I could dislodge any dust.

[DCMAKER]

you usually can't control the fan speed of the gpu. Also have you recently cleaned out the fan and heatsink? Also has it always been this way? the thermal paste might not have been right. Do you still have a warranty? If so you can RMA it.

[Baka]

Open it up and clean it better? o_o Use a notebook cooler if you haven't already and repaste your thermal paste. Idling at that temperature is quite dangerous actually... Has it been like that since you got it or did it just heat up abnormally recently?

My 9800M GT actually idles around the 40s and peaks at 70s ._.

Damn ninja'd by DCMAKER >:[ -Bites-

[moral hazard]

You have to take the notebook apart.
Clean out the dust (make sure you clean between the heatsink and the fan).

While you have it open, change the thermal paste.

EDIT: Wow some people answer fast.

[Amnesiac]

Repaste that sucker. Now. That's what I did with my G73 and it reduced load temps during gaming by about 15C.

Get a cooling pad. I generally consider cooling pads pretty unnecessary add ons, particularly if you have a laptop that runs fairly cool, but they can help.

Undervolt - You could get a vBIOS editor and change the voltage of the card, but again, that's generally pretty unnecessary.

Copper shim mod - There's a few people on here, like Forge, who have done copper mods in their laptops to reduce temps, but this can be time consuming and if you don't know what you are doing, you could damage something.

And probably the simplest thing of all, and the best thing is to just clean out your fans and vents with some compressed air. This, in all honesty, can mean the difference between a severely overheating notebook, and one that runs both cool and quiet.

[fadingxero]

I doubt it is under warranty.. but I don't think I will be able to open up my laptop (both currently don't have the tools (screwdriver) and may not be allowed by my parents..
IF I CAN however, where could I buy thermal paste (ie Best Buy); not online?
Also how should I clean it? Use a cloth without any water?

EDIT: I'm not sure if it always ran this high. I just got GPU-Z recently.
I do now that when I last played games on it (somewhat powerful PC games) it throttled to very low fps. But when I played it a few months ago (not sure how many months); I could play Fallout 3 easily without any lag except for the occasional lag when first logging in/ panning the camera quickly.

[Baka]

Read this and see which options you can go for. I'm not sure where you can get a thermal paste sorry

If you do can take it apart, use a cotton swab and pull out all the big chunks of dust with it. Then blow it around with compressed air or your hairdryer whichever works

A few months is enough for lots of dust to accumulate really...

[DCMAKER]

go to newegg and get rosewell tool kit. i just got it on say a week ago for 12 bucks. it is on sale on and off. It's a great tool kit and will have nearly everything you need.

EDIT:use google shopping and look up artic silver 5 very good paste. Also go to artic silver 5's site and read the HOW TO GUIDE! IT IS CRUCIAL YOU DO IT RIGHT!

[fadingxero]

Hmm. So I just looked under my laptop where the intake fan seems to be.. There are 3 screws there, 2 are normal looking, the third is deeply embedded in the laptop; near the hole is the letter K and an arrow pointing to it. I read somewhere that Asus computers use a special screwdriver that's basically custom made? Can of air is easy to get and I can probably get a screwdriver somewhere assuming I am wrong about the special screwdriver.

Any replacements for AS5? I notice the only store that carries it is not very close to me.

[Amnesiac]

It shouldn't use a proprietary screw. My G73 had regular screws all the way through it. What does this third screw look like?

As for thermal pastes, I would recommend ICD7, Shin Etsu X23, or Shin Etsu G751. ICD7 is the paste I used on both my laptops, and it works quite well. Shin Etsu is the brand that Intel uses to test their processors, but it is also quite hard to find. You'll most likely only find it on Ebay, or in specialist stores.

Also, make sure you know how to apply the paste you are going to use. Different pastes have different recommended methods of application. For example, ICD7 is generally recommended to put a 5mm sized "pea" on the processor or GPU die, and them clamp or screw the heatsink down on top of it. AS5 is supposed to be spread out evenly in a thin layer over the CPU or GPU die.