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07-07-2009, 09:54 PM
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ViDock 2 - My experiences so far
I went ahead and ordered the ViDock from PowerNotebooks.com (Thanks for shipping it out so quickly Paladin) and I have been playing with the ViDock for a little over a week now – here is what I have found in working with it. Please note – I am not a professional reviewer by any stretch of the imagination. I am a geek that likes to play games every now and then and would be considered an early adopter by most (if not all) who know me.
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Video Review::
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCK5dLWiO2Q
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First – some pics::
Snazzy packaging. Very high quality

Packaged very securely. The package comes with the 2 DVIVGA adapters, 2 additional faceplates made (it looks like) from Aluminum, power brick and cable, and of course the ViDock itself. Notice – no DVI cable. It is assumed you have one laying around.

For size comparisons – the ViDock sitting next to a Dell Studio Hybrid on top of a Sager NP5797.

Here the ViDock is sitting next to a OneTouch External HDD. To the left is another 5797.

Before I began – I read through the comments and pages on the forum, looked at the product site and read through the compatibility list. I noticed in a number of places the stress for Windows 7 to be used. Windows 7 has the ability to run different drivers for different display adapters (video cards). Windows 7 can also overcome poor BIOS programming for the ExpressCard – which made me hope that my older machines would play well with the ViDock.
I worked with the following machines:
• Sager NP5797. 1920x1200, 1Gb GTX 280M, T9900 (3.06 Ghz), 4Gb RAM, Windows 7
• Dell M1730 – 1920x1200, Core2 Extreme processor, 4Gb RAM, 8800M Graphics, Windows 7
• Lenovo T400 – 1280x800, 2Gb RAM, P8600 (2.4Ghz), Intel 4500 integrated Graphics, Windows 7
• MacBook Pro 15” version – last generation that had an ExpressCard port. ATI X1600 Video card, Windows 7
I will detail my experience with each machine – but the nutshell is as follows:
• Sager – Worked brilliantly and as expected. Video card is ½ as powerful as the GTX280M.
• Lenovo – Worked brilliantly and as expected. This is the perfect solution for this laptop.
• MBP – Screen was enabled before installing drivers, then would not come back on again. Also – with ViDock plugged in during reboot – no video at all.
• Dell M1730 – Never could get anything to work with this laptop. Driver notification came up after plugging in the expresscard – but never got video.
Testing applications:
• 3DMark Vantage and 3DMark06
• Crysis TimeDemo
• Crysis played (had a little fun)
Detailed experiences:
Lenovo T400 laptop. This is a great machine that would represent something handed out in today’s corporate world. Normal machine with a decent processor, integrated graphics, 2Gb of memory, etc.
Without ViDock. I could not get 3DMark Vantage or 3DMark06 to complete without crashing to the desktop somewhere along the line. I was disappointed – but knew going in that the integrated graphics chip from intel is not meant for gaming. That being said – I fired up Crysis. The game was started at 800x600 with all setting on Med (even though the game wanted to go with high). This was a bit troublesome because I was not patient enough to get through the opening movie. Playback was 1 frame every 3 seconds at best…. Crysis has a tendency to put high end machines on notice – and this business laptop was being choke slammed by this game.
With ViDock. The machine was fantastic to play with. Went through 3DMark06 and scored 5301 – this is slower than my 5797, but to be expected as the 5797 is running a faster processor . I was able to play crysis at 1024x768 with 8xQ AA at about 20FPS. This was totally playable and turned this machine into a gaming machine (not a screamer – but as expected with the ATI4670).
Overall – the ViDock was perfect for this laptop. Providing an alternative to the anemic 4500HD integrated graphics chip led to a wonderful gaming experience. I would totally recommend the ViDock to people that I work with that want to game on the side with a work laptop.
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more benchmarks:
Resident Evil 5 Benchmark: -- All DX10 on Windows 7 - 64bit
1152x864
AA - 4X
Motion Blur - On
Shadow Detail - High
Texture detail - low
Overall quality - high
Fixed: 16.9 Avg FPS
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1152x864
AA - 2x
Motion blur - off
shadow - high
texture - low
overall - high
Fixed: 17 fps avg.
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1280x960
AA - off
motion blur - off
shadow - med
texture - low
overall - med
Fixed: 26.2
Sager 5797. This machine is a beast. It is a desktop replacement that can play darn near any title you want to throw at it with ease. It plays COD4 at maxed out settings at 1920x1200 – without the slightest hesitation. That being said – I was not testing the ViDock on this machine for anything other than compatibility. The ViDock fired right up and I had no problem plugging in the card and removing while up and running.
Without ViDock. No real reason to cover this in this article. This machine screams. An ATI 4670 is not going to be an “upgrade” for this machine.
With ViDock. 3DMark06 was 6398 and 2757 on 3DMark Vantage. Admirable scores for this laptop – but roughly half as fast at the GTX280M.
Crysis runs:
Run #1- DX10 800x600 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Last Average FPS: 19.18
Run #2- DX10 800x600 AA=2x, 64 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Last Average FPS: 17.45
Run #3- DX10 800x600 AA=8xQ, 64 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Last Average FPS: 17.44
Run #4- DX10 1024x768 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Last Average FPS: 17.20
Run #5- DX10 1024x768 AA=2x, 64 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Last Average FPS: 15.51
Run #6- DX10 1280x960 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Last Average FPS: 14.57
Overall – This version of the ViDock was not targeted at this laptop. The graphics inside the laptop were far faster than the graphics outside.
MBP and Dell M1730 – I could not get the ViDock to work with either of these machines. You may have different luck – and let me know if you do, but I was not able to get this working.
Overall impression of the ViDock – Very good build quality. I could not really hear the fan (especially with everything going on in my office). I can’t wait for the faster version (version4) to debut – as I will definitely pick up ones of these for gaming at home and a great docking station solution for work.
Please let me know if you have any questions but I did see this on the site and thought it reasonable to show again:
Any laptop that is using Windows7, and has its BIOS properly written to allocate the proper resources to the ExpressCard slot, should work. Not all laptop models out there have been tested, but to see which ones work and which ones don’t from those that have been tested so far, please check the Compatibility List at http://www.villagetronic.com/vidock/compatibility.html
Some additional pics - of the inside:

Last edited by Steiner32 : 07-20-2009 at 12:06 PM.
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07-07-2009, 10:07 PM
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Re: ViDock 2 - My experiences so far
Great work. Many of us have been waiting. Thanks +1
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07-07-2009, 10:22 PM
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Re: ViDock 2 - My experiences so far
Thanks man defintally plus one for you to have the guts to shell out the money and try it. Would you guys this would run on a dell studio 1537. And could that ati vidock gpu be overclock? Also do you think the price would go down?
Thank you
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07-07-2009, 10:56 PM
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Re: ViDock 2 - My experiences so far
Congratulations Steiner32 it seems the vidock it's a success.I cant wait to see the 3 and 4 versions.
@xxbadboys93 It should work with Studio 1537 and it should be overclockable after all it's desktop card.
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07-07-2009, 11:05 PM
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Re: ViDock 2 - My experiences so far
Thanks for your review!
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07-07-2009, 11:28 PM
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Re: ViDock 2 - My experiences so far
Thanks mate +rep. This is very useful, Im glad that finally I can see the final product.
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07-07-2009, 11:48 PM
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Re: ViDock 2 - My experiences so far
Wow, never knew something like this existed. Thanks for the review!
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07-07-2009, 11:54 PM
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Re: ViDock 2 - My experiences so far
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Originally Posted by xxbadboys93
Thanks man defintally plus one for you to have the guts to shell out the money and try it. Would you guys this would run on a dell studio 1537. And could that ati vidock gpu be overclock? Also do you think the price would go down?
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Funny you mention that. I thought about overclocking that card as well. The best part (just because I am an idiot) is that it is external. I am thinking about breaking it open and water cooling it with an external enclosure - like a reserator or something.... I really like this thing!
I am really excited about it because I sold my main gaming rig in an attempt to help me focus as I go back to school. This will allow me to buy the tablet PC I was looking at for class but still have a killer gaming experience at home when resting -- and the wife will be much more OK with me buying a "docking station" rather than another gaming machine.
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07-07-2009, 11:56 PM
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Re: ViDock 2 - My experiences so far
You sound so happy about a product that looks like it totally sucked.
I'll wait for this version 4 and pass my judgment then, but currently it looks slow and like it has a lot of compatability/stability issues.
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07-08-2009, 12:04 AM
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Re: ViDock 2 - My experiences so far
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Originally Posted by ViciousXUSMC
You sound so happy about a product that looks like it totally sucked.
I'll wait for this version 4 and pass my judgment then, but currently it looks slow and like it has a lot of compatability/stability issues.
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I think it worked as described and as expected. The Dell is an older revision - and the MBP I didn't expect to work at all. The upside on this is that as you pick up new machines that fully support the standard - the older machine will fall by the way side.
The down side is that it doesn't make coffee.
Look - all things being equal - I am an early adopter of most things and I want to see a company with a good idea bring the items to market that I am interested in. I bought one of those 3 button LED keyboards from that Russian company (Art Lebedev) the day it came out because I wanted to support them in getting to the point where you could buy the full LED keyboard. I never bought the full keyboard (would have paid 450 - not 1450 for it) but this is just an example of my mindset when it comes to bleeding edge technology.
I am looking forward to the ViDock4 - and would love it if this could output on the laptop screen and would love it if it came with a free game and would love it if this could help my potty train my youngest........ For what it is - I am very impressed and would recommend it to the people that I work with in a heartbeat.
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