Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo Sa 3650!

[adrian890]

Ignore the trolls lol. I dont think the XGP needs an external power source. Iv been looking at the notebook on the Fujitsu site and elsewhere and Iv never seen a power adapter. PCE-E itself provides power and this is a notebook GPU so I think it should be enough.

Also if you read the XGP product brief you would see that ATI designed 2 ports of 8x and 16x. No where on the pdf did they mention that it will require a future version to support Cross Display. However you never know. I would think that it is more probable that Cross Display will be supported than not however.

youtube video i found, shows a wire going down the back of table,looks like the same ac plug as psp.. ill link it hert for you.
thnx alot for replying mate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyfCy0OzZrk


debating getting this and hp tx2 for uni and this for home =)

[TommyB0y]

More poor posts.

YES it needs AC power plug, I can spoon feed you, but you could also spend 5 minutes looking it up.

And yeah, it mentions cross display and that was posted after it was announced that it wouldnt work initially, and if you read the disclaimer on the bottom of the white paper it says nothing in the paper has to be technically correct, dumb I know.

In that same white paper you could have read that it runs off an AC plug, that always draws a small amount of power to sense whether or not you connected a laptop to it or not.

Maybe, and a big maybe, a mobility HD3450 could run off the PCI-E bus of the laptop. The only reason to get that though is to crossfire, which will work and improve performance, but nothing compared to the HD3870, like a 1/3 of the performance. The crossfire will work on the laptop screen. I have that xfire setup on this desktop, with HD3200 IGP and a desktop HD3470 (little better than 3450, 3470 has GDDR3 RAM, also make it mobile too tho), and it does well enough for me, I play AOEIII:TAD on high settings, dont have other games on it to benchmark though. I get 4.5 Windows Vista Experience points on graphics

[lixuelai]

youtube video i found, shows a wire going down the back of table,looks like the same ac plug as psp.. ill link it hert for you.
thnx alot for replying mate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyfCy0OzZrk


debating getting this and hp tx2 for uni and this for home =)

Ah I see thanks for the link, no where on the actual Fujitsu site do they actually show the notebook with the brick attached. If this ever becomes available in the US I might get it to replace my MBP or to complement it. The battery life on it seems lacking however but as long as it can get 2 hours one way or another it should be enough to last through a lecture.

[Orresnei]

The graphicbooster does indeed require it's own power adapter to function. I've tried to use the graphicbooster without the power adapter plugged in, and as far as I know, that didn't work. Though, the usb ports might work without the power adapter. Have not tested that.

I've also tested two different 1080P videoes (with the graphicsbooster enabled). The videos ran smooth, with no signs of chopping, desyncs or other problems of similar nature. The image quality was nice, and yeah. Not much more to say about that. Will test without the graphicsbooster as well in some time.

Oooh, and happy christmas to you all! (24th for us Europeans and 25th for you Americans).

[Hoy]

Merry Christmas Orrensei, and Happy Holidays to everyone.

I'll bet that the USB ports won't work without the power plugged in. If you really wanted to engineer the crap out of this notebook (perhaps a future model), you'd have:

a 12.1 or 13.3 inch like this one, with XGP x16 powered off the laptop (only when the laptop is plugged in), no power brick needed. Perhaps you could have an optional AC/DC power source which could be satisfied by either a rechargeable battery or the current from the wall. While you're at it, you'll include the next generation of AMD platform, Tigris, along with some kind of onboard 4850 or 4870 or similar as the IGP (of coursed tweaked for lower power consumption when running off of the battery, down clocking the GPU like the PUMA processor already does). In addition to this, you'd also have the ability to triple crossfire the laptop with the XGP + a Graphics booster with dual 4850 or 4870 chips or similar.

Too bad it's a fantasy and it'll likely never go beyond that.

Oh and Tommy, I've tried, but you are just a troll and a lost cause.

[TommyB0y]

Glad everyone knows your fantasy Hoy, so very useful for all of the readers, youre still a clueless fool. Throw in your last word though after your insults. Hope you get 20 more people in here providing inaccurate information and letting you know how they hope it does something it was never advertised for.

And a good reason the XGP may not be able to power the video card off the laptop is that the cable is not 100% PCI-E compliant, only compatable with the standard control functions.

[patator]

Disposant d'une Radeon HD 3870 (nous reviendrons sur les performances dans un prochain dossier), ce boîtier permettra ainsi, une fois branché, de bénéficier de performances dans les jeux jusque-là réservées à des machines bien plus encombrantes, que ce soit sur un écran externe ou sur l'écran de la machine (possibilité qui sera intégrée aux Catalyst 9.1, si tout va bien).
More information here http://www.pcinpact.com/actu/news_multi/48065.htm

[adrian890]

Glad everyone knows your fantasy Hoy, so very useful for all of the readers, youre still a clueless fool. Throw in your last word though after your insults. Hope you get 20 more people in here providing inaccurate information and letting you know how they hope it does something it was never advertised for.

And a good reason the XGP may not be able to power the video card off the laptop is that the cable is not 100% PCI-E compliant, only compatable with the standard control functions.

do u think the next amilo sa will allow it to be powered by the pci-e slot?

[nerever_kuhn]

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-...r.13484.0.html

review of the amilo sa 3650 + graphic booster by notebookcheck!

[TommyB0y]

the laptops xgp will never be able to power an hd3870 or better.

the laptop wouldn't get enough battery life to make it useful in any case.

a pcie bus alone can power an hd3470 which could do xfire to hd3200, but requires a breakout of the cable to see if the power voltages are all coming across which I doubt, but possible.
amds documentation says the xgp box has to be powered first to be able to sense the connection.

if anyone has an xgp 3450/70 you can ask, and have them try disconnecting the AC after its already completed the xfire. if the cable has the voltage then a 3450/70 should run without the AC, even if you need a power source just to get it going.