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16th May 2012, 08:24 PM #10201Banned
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Re: DIY eGPU experiences
TOLUD is only relevant when working in 32-bit PCI space. Applying the DSDT override overcomes space limitations allowing the eGPU to be hosted out of 36/64-bit, much larger pci-e space.
I've extended step 7 in the DSDT override page that discusses how to re-allocate your eGPU after performing the DSDT override. Please refer to that.
The interconnect is the same with the commercial or DIY eGPU PE4H. Error 10 can however occur if the mHDMI cable is damaged. I'd suggest swap that out with a US$6-shipped replacement from DX and try again.
As for the iGPU, dGPU and eGPU all co-existing on a W520... I believe they will *however* I recall from PM troubleshooting with you for your Setup 1.x donation that the eGPU would not engage x1.2Opt pci-e compression. Instead it was running at straight x1 2.0 where it is about 2.5 times slower in 3dmark06.
The W520 supposedly has a bios option to disable the dGPU. Doing so would ensure the Keplar/Fermi card would run at the highest x1.2Opt performance.
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16th May 2012, 08:41 PM #10202Notebook Enthusiast
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16th May 2012, 08:48 PM #10203Banned
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Re: DIY eGPU experiences
Yes, standby = sleep mode.
For your situation power on the eGPU, then hotplug the EC2C into the expresscard slot. It should result the system making a 'found new hardware' beep. If not, flip the switches on the PE4L itself: SW1 to 1-2 positon (0 seconds) and SW2 to 2-3 (x16) and try again. If still no go:
- test your eGPU with an ATX PSU, rather than DC adapter if you are using one of those.
- ensure your bios has the expresscard slot enabled. Lenovo has an option to disable it.
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16th May 2012, 10:22 PM #10204Notebook Consultant
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Thanks for the suggestion, actually I always wanted to get a longer mHDMI cable, I might as well do that too.
Well, I didn't figure the 3DMARK06 test to be a serious indicator of performance. Since I kept the dGPU on, I have set it to perform PhysX duty.
Currently I don't think there is a custom inf for the GTX 670 with the latest beta.
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16th May 2012, 10:28 PM #10205
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I believe your notebook have dynamic TOLUD. Notebook with dynamic TOLUD have two sets of DSDT. To confirm this:-
- From OFF state, boot notebook without eGPU connected & take screenshot of Device Manager >> View >> Resources by connection >> expand the Memory tree.
- From OFF state, boot notebook with eGPU connected & take screenshot of Device Manager >> View >> Resources by connection >> expand the Memory tree.
When I say "expand the Memory tree", only expand the Memory tree, no need to expand the sub-tree under Memory, like this. Post the screenshots here.Dell Studio 1557 | Intel Core i7-720QM - CPU Microcode Update Rev 4 | 4GB | dGPU: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4570 + eGPU: PowerColor HD 5870
Asus A42JV/K42JV | Intel Core i5-450M | 4GB DDR3 1066MHz | nVidia GeForce GT 335M 1GB DDR3 with Optimus technology | WLED 1366x768 14"
Phoenix BIOS MOD Request | Acer Notebook Clock Generators/PLL | Guide to BIOS mod for Dual-IDA
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16th May 2012, 10:30 PM #10206Notebook Enthusiast
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Re: DIY eGPU experiences
Thanks Nando will give a go as said!! Big thanks again
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16th May 2012, 10:41 PM #10207Banned
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3dmark06 is one of the best benchmarks to confirm Optimus pci-e compression engages. You'll see a result of ~5k for x1 1.0, ~10k for x1 2.0. When pci-e compression engages, that will increase by 2-3 times, depending on the CPU and eGPU being used.
Now we know the latest NVidia desktop drivers include pci-e and NVidia Optimus funtionality by default. So it should not be necessary at all to mod them to get x1.2Opt performance on your system. Only variables for the W520 would then be:
* dGPU on/off: how does it affect 3dmark06 results?
Yes, Physx provided by the dGPU is a good use for it. One way in which I endeavoured to get the eGPU+dGPU to coexist with the eGPU being given Optimus driver priority was the use of the dGPU on-demoted option in Setup 1.x. Not sure if it works as I don't have a NVidia dGPU equipped system other than Kizwan reported his Asus didn't like that setting. Suggest you try it and advise how it goes.
SimoxTav will be providing GTX670 bench results soon. You are more than welcome to submit your i7+GTX670@x1.2Opt Lenovo W520 results too. I am curious how much better it than say a GTX560Ti.
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17th May 2012, 03:13 AM #10208Newbie
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Re: DIY eGPU experiences
Many Thanks Nando I really appreciate it. I'll give it a whirl later today.
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17th May 2012, 04:55 AM #10209Notebook Enthusiast
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@kizwan. I will get you those screenshots when I have a chance to help figure out getting the dsdt to work on my win server 2008r2 install. thanks for your help
good news / bad news
good news.. out of drunken desperation to eliminate other variables I caved and threw in a different ssd, and installed a fresh install of win 7, rather than 2008r2.
Low and behold the egpu is recognized nicely, works with my 16gb of ram, and am getting opt1.2 ...
bad news, this isnt on my more useful 2008r2 install, and I am now doubting that it will ever work on there (dsdt hopefully maybe).
I dont know why the difference, but there is.. a little dissapointing, If I can't get this to work, I will have to decide between using 2008r2 with hyper-v, remotefx, and other useful admin things... or using win 7 with the perfect egpu support on this machine.
well onto benches.. these are just quick first tests.. It is very late at night, but I was too excited not to do a couple and post the results
3dmark06, overall end score = 23551
3dmark11, overall end score = 7892 , gpu portion of score 8174
Heaven, end score 2355
I'm curious how much better they can be after overclocking this gtx680, despite the bottleneck of have only a opt1.2 connection.
I'm happy I got this to work, although dissapointed I couldnt do it yet with my 2008r2 install.Last edited by Kuro-D; 17th May 2012 at 11:07 PM.
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Re: DIY eGPU experiences
I have a 2010 HP Pavilion dv7-4177nr and do not have a PCI slot...is there any other way to interface an external desktop gpu? I like others I would love to upgrade my gpu to play modern games and this thing is only two yrs old!! but without another way to hook it up I don't see how I can take advantage of interfacing a PCIe with this unit. All I have for external connections is 4 usbs 1 HDMI 1 vga 1 e-sata and 1 rj-45 and 1 card reader for sd type micro discs. And the mini pci on board is for wireless usage. Just my luck to have an expensive fairly new un-upgradeable gpu clunker....grrrr



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