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    Default Re: **OFFICIAL** Dell XPS M1730 Owner's Lounge, *Part 4*

    wah47: You basically described how Intel designed Intel Dynamic Acceleration (IDA) mode to work. When one core goes to sleep, the other core automatically overclocks the multiplier up to 13. When both cores are awake, they both use the 12 multiplier. This is going on hundreds of times a second. ThrottleStop reports a very accurate average of this using high performance timers within the CPU.

    The beauty of ThrottleStop is that if your bios lets you disable EIST, you can usually use ThrottleStop to lock both cores at the 13 IDA multiplier even if both cores are active at the same time. somebody over at TechPowerUp taught me this trick so I just wrote some simple software to make it easy for users to access this.

    If this is working for you now, try reducing the core voltage. You will need to enable EIST before you reduce the VID voltage and then either disable EIST manually or use ThrottleStop to lock both cores into Dual IDA again. After that, test full load stability with Prime95 or something similar to give your CPU a good work out. With some luck and a decent CPU, you should be able to run the 13 multy with a VID setting somewhere around 1.10 volts. That will improve your full load temps compared to 1.375 volts.

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    Default Re: **OFFICIAL** Dell XPS M1730 Owner's Lounge, *Part 4*

    Quote Originally Posted by unclewebb View Post
    wah47: You basically described how Intel designed Intel Dynamic Acceleration (IDA) mode to work. When one core goes to sleep, the other core automatically overclocks the multiplier up to 13. When both cores are awake, they both use the 12 multiplier. This is going on hundreds of times a second. ThrottleStop reports a very accurate average of this using high performance timers within the CPU.

    The beauty of ThrottleStop is that if your bios lets you disable EIST, you can usually use ThrottleStop to lock both cores at the 13 IDA multiplier even if both cores are active at the same time. somebody over at TechPowerUp taught me this trick so I just wrote some simple software to make it easy for users to access this.

    If this is working for you now, try reducing the core voltage. You will need to enable EIST before you reduce the VID voltage and then either disable EIST manually or use ThrottleStop to lock both cores into Dual IDA again. After that, test full load stability with Prime95 or something similar to give your CPU a good work out. With some luck and a decent CPU, you should be able to run the 13 multy with a VID setting somewhere around 1.10 volts. That will improve your full load temps compared to 1.375 volts.
    Thanks I'll give it a try.Now the max temp is 66C with 1.375.

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    Default Re: **OFFICIAL** Dell XPS M1730 Owner's Lounge, *Part 4*

    Quote Originally Posted by wah47 View Post
    A single HD 5870 can beat 8800m/9800m GTX SLI.
    In these games where is a good SLI support - a single 5870 will lose with 8800gtxsli imho .

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    Default Re: **OFFICIAL** Dell XPS M1730 Owner's Lounge, *Part 4*

    Quote Originally Posted by Consi Pit View Post
    In these games where is a good SLI support - a single 5870 will lose with 8800gtxsli imho .
    Check it out.

    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 - Notebookcheck.net Tech

    NVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTX SLI - Notebookcheck.net Tech

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    Default Re: **OFFICIAL** Dell XPS M1730 Owner's Lounge, *Part 4*

    Yes I know it well , but i believe you know that synthetic tests is not all. SLI with a good profile can give 40-80% extra fps in games . And then a single 5870 has no chance.
    Last edited by Consi Pit; 11th May 2012 at 06:34 AM.

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    Default Re: **OFFICIAL** Dell XPS M1730 Owner's Lounge, *Part 4*

    @Consi Pit
    Yeh, but honestly overall HD 5870 wins.Also, you'll not have any SLI issues and no need to mess with SLI profiles

    @Unclewebb
    Now I understood this all.Basically, T8300 isn't overclockable and has a locked multiplier.But because of the behaviour of IDA we can get extra 200Mhz by this trick.It's difference from normal overclocking.(e.g: overclocking X9000)
    So I'm running it with these.
    Volts: 1.1125 Multiplier: 13x199
    It's working fine

    But after each reboot, multiplier returns back to 6.0.I have to start the TS again to bring it back.

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    Default Re: **OFFICIAL** Dell XPS M1730 Owner's Lounge, *Part 4*

    guys where can i download the key board driver for my dell XPS M1730 running windows 7 ultimate 64BIT..as my keyboard back-light is not working

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    Default Re: **OFFICIAL** Dell XPS M1730 Owner's Lounge, *Part 4*

    Quote Originally Posted by vinoob View Post
    guys where can i download the key board driver for my dell XPS M1730 running windows 7 ultimate 64BIT..as my keyboard back-light is not working
    You do not need a driver for the lights. Try your Fn+right arrow key combination.
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    Default Re: **OFFICIAL** Dell XPS M1730 Owner's Lounge, *Part 4*

    Wah47,

    As someone who has both setups, I can say without a doubt that the single 5870m does have some solid advantages, but raw full-resolution edge still goes to the dual 9800m GPU configuration.

    With a small overclock, I had Crysis benching at just about 28 fps on very high. A single 5870 makes it to a nice 20 after generous overclocking in my experience.

    In your own links, if you look at those detailed benchmarks of actual demanding games like Metro 2033 and Crysis, the idea becomes more apparent.

    Although to be fair, this is much more complex than just one being better than the other.

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    Default Re: **OFFICIAL** Dell XPS M1730 Owner's Lounge, *Part 4*

    @Kade Storm
    Agreed, However in Metro 2033 AMD/ATI cards show considerable better performance.In short, The comparison of these cards is very game dependent.

    @Consi Pit
    You wanted to see the performance of overclocked T8300.
    It's about 7-10% faster in CPU benchmarking softwares.

    In games, only CPU dependent games may have better performance with it.
    Far Cry 2
    Medium@1024x768
    Built-in Benchmark "Small Ranch"
    Stock: 35fps
    OC: 37fps
    Just Cause 2
    Nearly High@1280x800
    Built-in Benchmark "Desert Sunrise"
    Stock: 26fps
    OC: 26fps

    Little improvement

 

 

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