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Old 06-07-2008, 02:36 PM   #61 (permalink)
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This is incredibly bad advice - and should be completely ignored.

"Software for the 7300" and "the 9300 software" - you have to explain these please.

do you really think that Windows recognize the Procesors by magic, giving my coments here, and mentioning software, it is normal to think that DRIVERS are software, and that not inserting a cd or disk to instal hardware that dosent mean that windows dosent install included "software" (drivers) to make the hardware work, by the way, adding comments of what people do with their laptops is the man idea of forums, people can take the advise if they want to, and people like you just make this forums full of critics and dont add useful info.
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do you really think that Windows recognize the Procesors by magic, giving my coments here, and mentioning software, it is normal to think that DRIVERS are software, and that not inserting a cd or disk to instal hardware that dosent mean that windows dosent install included "software" (drivers) to make the hardware work, by the way, adding comments of what people do with their laptops is the man idea of forums, people can take the advise if they want to, and people like you just make this forums full of critics and dont add useful info.
1st - telling people to reload software after a CPU swap is BAD advice. Not being a "critic" here, just trying to help to avoid someone actually doing something completely unnecessary.

There are no different "drivers" for different CPU... What you are trying to describe happens at a lower 'layer' - (hint: it's called BIOS)

You may want to run the BIOS setup after swapping a CPU, to
make sure it's recognized - but please note that this isn't "Windows recognizing the processors by magic". It has NOTHING to do with Windows.

Any software you load - including drivers, shouldn't have to be re-loaded or re-done when swapping CPU. Unless something else is wrong.

I've swapped CPU in machines for years and I've NEVER had to reload any software, ever. And yes, on a m1330, swapping a 7500 for and 8300 and then up to a T9500. Swap, run setup, and go - easy squeezy...
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1st - telling people to reload software after a CPU swap is BAD advice. Not being a "critic" here, just trying to help to avoid someone actually doing something completely unnecessary.

There are no different "drivers" for different CPU... What you are trying to describe happens at a lower 'layer' - (hint: it's called BIOS)

You may want to run the BIOS setup after swapping a CPU, to
make sure it's recognized - but please note that this isn't "Windows recognizing the processors by magic". It has NOTHING to do with Windows.

Any software you load - including drivers, shouldn't have to be re-loaded or re-done when swapping CPU. Unless something else is wrong.

I've swapped CPU in machines for years and I've NEVER had to reload any software, ever. And yes, on a m1330, swapping a 7500 for and 8300 and then up to a T9500. Swap, run setup, and go - easy squeezy...

well that might be your opinion, i only post what happend in my system, things worked better that way, and as you should know in computer teoricaly evreything should work just fine, but in the practice some things dont work, as you said it mighr been other issue, but at the ent that worked fine. and if you my posts i always publis my opinion and what hapens in the changes i make and people who read all info no the internet must be aware of that, "what people pot is what worked in their specific case" and that dosent mean it will work for all.
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well that might be your opinion, i only post what happend in my system, things worked better that way, and as you should know in computer teoricaly evreything should work just fine, but in the practice some things dont work, as you said it mighr been other issue, but at the ent that worked fine. and if you my posts i always publis my opinion and what hapens in the changes i make and people who read all info no the internet must be aware of that, "what people pot is what worked in their specific case" and that dosent mean it will work for all.
One - this isn't my "opinion" - it is simple computer science (translation: fact). I'm not going to even try to attempt to teach you the abstraction layer model (hardware, BIOS, OS and application) But, please do some reading before you attempt to carry this discussion any further. (and give people bad advice)

I'll start you off:

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22so...e7&rlz=1I7GGIK

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/mbsys/bios/funcLayers-c.html

Two - get a spell checker - your credibility drops considerably when there is no punctuation whatsoever and quite a few mangled words....
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One - this isn't my "opinion" - it is simple computer science (translation: fact). I'm not going to even try to attempt to teach you the abstraction layer model (hardware, BIOS, OS and application) But, please do some reading before you attempt to carry this discussion any further. (and give people bad advice)

I'll start you off:

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22so...e7&rlz=1I7GGIK

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/mbsys/bios/funcLayers-c.html

Two - get a spell checker - your credibility drops considerably when there is no punctuation whatsoever and quite a few mangled words....
i dont intend to continue this discussion, save your time looking for information on the web for me, i am not interested on the topic, and as for credibility, i really dont need it, i dont work with computer for muney, just for hobby, and english is not my native language that is why its hard for me to make my point.
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I have a T5450, 1.67 Ghz, 667 Mhz FSB and 667 Mhz memory.

If I upgrade to a Penryn with 800 Mhz FSB, do I have to upgrade my memory to 800 Mhz as well, or will they run asynchronously?
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They will run asynchronously. The chipsets' limit is 667 MHz. Stick with the 667 MHz memory.
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They will run asynchronously. The chipsets' limit is 667 MHz. Stick with the 667 MHz memory.
Thanks! That simplifies matters.
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