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17th March 2010, 09:41 PM #11
Re: Fl90 VideoCard Trouble
Sorry to jump in, but I have a question. What was the problem again with the HD4650 GDDR3 models? Was that the model that was only available from MSI notebooks? Or was that the 4670?
In any case, what's the status on this?Azone
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18th March 2010, 05:48 AM #12
Re: Fl90 VideoCard Trouble
Compal has some notebooks with the HD 4650 GDDR3 but they don't use MXM anymore, so you cannot put that card into the FL90. It's the same with most other manufacturers. Acer uses MXM but their HD 4650 DDR3 (not GDDR3) models are all MXM 3.0. The FL90 only has MXM 2.1 II.
MSI produced HD 4670 with GDDR3 (which is considerable faster than DDR3) in MXM 2.1 II but they don't sell them.
The link you posted seems legit.ECS G736 P4 HT 3.2 - 9600 Pro - 2GB DDR-333 - 80GB@5400 rpm - 15,1" SXGA+ *RiP*
Compal FL90 C2D T7500 - HD 3650 256MB GDDR3 - 4GB DDR2-667 - 120GB@7200 rpm - 15,4" WSXGA+
Asus Eee PC 1005PE Atom N450 - 1GB DDR2-800 - 250GB@5400 rpm - 10,1" WSVGA
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18th March 2010, 06:23 AM #13Notebook Enthusiast
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Re: Fl90 VideoCard Trouble
Ok i will prepare for buying. Now i watch image of HD4650 and see that GPU in HD4650 placed in other position. GPU is turned for 45 degrees. What about thermal pads? I need buy new thermal pad for new card?? Or no?
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18th March 2010, 06:35 AM #14Newbie
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Re: Fl90 VideoCard Trouble
Hello there!
I`v been reading this forum for a wild and now decided to jump in.
I have FT00 with dead fVIDIA 8600M GT. I baked it in SMD reflow owen and got it work. It works 2 month and now it`s dead again. If I install any drivers I got blue screen (you know, memory dump..) and nothing I can do about it. I can only use it in basic VGA without any drivers.
As I understude from some previous posts FT00 is same configuration as (I)FL90 and hacks for IFL90 I can use on my FT00?
So it means I can upgrade my graphic to HD 3650 (DDR2 or GDDR3) without any problems? Or even to 4650.
I`m quit price sencitive and HD 3650 is pretty good to my but problem is to get it here. Are you Eugeni descided what to buy and where? Maybe we can cooperate with this issue together?
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18th March 2010, 06:50 AM #15
Re: Fl90 VideoCard Trouble
If any of you buys the HD4650 from MXM-Upgrade you don't need to worry about thermal pads, they come with the card. You would, however, have to buy thermal paste.
I just got an E-Mail from the shop offering the HD 4650 DDR2 for 105 € and they assured me that the price is correct. But they have to reorder the cards, they are not in stock right now which could take time and maybe they would even increase the price then... they are not bound by the price on their site.
To sum it up. Safest bet: MXM-Upgrade. Lowest price: Vilotec (http://www.laptop-ersatzteile.de/ind...&ref=Elmar.com)
The GPU is turned but that should not be a problem since the copper part of the heatsink is big enough to cover the chip. It's like 2cm².ECS G736 P4 HT 3.2 - 9600 Pro - 2GB DDR-333 - 80GB@5400 rpm - 15,1" SXGA+ *RiP*
Compal FL90 C2D T7500 - HD 3650 256MB GDDR3 - 4GB DDR2-667 - 120GB@7200 rpm - 15,4" WSXGA+
Asus Eee PC 1005PE Atom N450 - 1GB DDR2-800 - 250GB@5400 rpm - 10,1" WSVGA
Desktop i5-2500K@4,5 - GTX 580@925/1850/1100 - 4GB DDR3-1600 - 128GB SSD & 1TB HDD - 24" 120Hz LED
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18th March 2010, 11:18 AM #16Notebook Enthusiast
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Re: Fl90 VideoCard Trouble
Urmas, it may be good idea, where you live? I meen city. I decided what i will buy. It will be HD4650. Want try PayPal sysem for paying. Now i registered in PayPal.
So. First i want buy card from IPC-computers.eu. But Daniel say now that MXM-upgrate is very safe shop and they give me all what i need. I do not know, but MXM-upgrate have very strange interface. I mean not friendly. It may be not irrelevant, but i use this way for buying first time, and i worry about shipping safety, i dont know how to pay normally. In the IPC writed all. There i can pay with PayPal, there is cost of shipping writed, and how long this shipping will be, and interface is offical. But in mxm-upgrate is not writed anything. I dont find even prices. All fotos maked handly... I dont know... Vilotec in Deutsch. I dont understand this lang and cant read all what i wnat know about this shop. So what we gonna do...? Daniel maybe tell about MXM something more? Where is this shop? How they deliver card in Estonia? It is very important questions. But do not writed in the site... At least i dont find answers in site...
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18th March 2010, 12:45 PM #17
Re: Fl90 VideoCard Trouble
MXM-Upgrade is a Belgium shop so no problem with tax or anything since it's within the EU. But that would be the same with IPC or Vilotec whichare both situated in Germany.
However, I just realized that you are right. There is no buying option... They seem to sell the cards only for laptops which they find compatible with the cards. There is no link for the Compal FL90 and I did not find an E-Mail adress. So propably your best place to buy the card is IPC or Vilotec after all.
I would do this: Send IPC an E-Mail and ask them if they really have the HD4650 in stock. If they do, you can order there. If they do not have the card in stock and have to reorder them, I can help you ordering at Vilotec because that would be cheaper then.
Shipping fee for IPC is 13,90 to estonia so propably it's cheaper for you two to just order 2 cards and then one of you sends them to the other as inner-Estonia shipping fees should be much lower.Last edited by Daniel Hahn; 18th March 2010 at 12:50 PM.
ECS G736 P4 HT 3.2 - 9600 Pro - 2GB DDR-333 - 80GB@5400 rpm - 15,1" SXGA+ *RiP*
Compal FL90 C2D T7500 - HD 3650 256MB GDDR3 - 4GB DDR2-667 - 120GB@7200 rpm - 15,4" WSXGA+
Asus Eee PC 1005PE Atom N450 - 1GB DDR2-800 - 250GB@5400 rpm - 10,1" WSVGA
Desktop i5-2500K@4,5 - GTX 580@925/1850/1100 - 4GB DDR3-1600 - 128GB SSD & 1TB HDD - 24" 120Hz LED
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18th March 2010, 02:33 PM #18Notebook Enthusiast
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Re: Fl90 VideoCard Trouble
Okay if it no so problem for you, ask IPC about availability cards. And if they have in stock, i will buy. If not, will be try buy on Vilotec.
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18th March 2010, 04:10 PM #19
Re: Fl90 VideoCard Trouble
So the 4650 I linked to is MXM 3.0, correct? If so, then it makes sense as to why it wouldn't work. I'm considering upgrading, but I want to avoid DDR2 if at all possible. (Even though it's a big leap over the 3650 GDDR3, and an even bigger leap over our 8600s).
Azone
Reviews: Western Digital My Book Essential | Logitech S-220
Sager NP2090 (Compal IFL90) | 15.4" WSXGA+ | Core 2 Duo T7500 | 3 GB DDR2 | 500 GB Scorpio Blue
GeForce 8600m GT 512 MB | Plantronics Gamecom 377 | Zalman ZM-NC2000 | 3DMark06: 3864 | PCMark05: 5017
Soon: HD3650 or HD4650
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18th March 2010, 05:14 PM #20
Re: Fl90 VideoCard Trouble
The card you linked to is MXM 2.1 vII and would therefore fit into the FL90's MXM slot. The seller also claims it is a DDR3 version, he seems trustworthy but I would make sure that it is indeed a DDR3 version. Also: DDR3 is obviously faster than DDR2 but not comparable to GDDR3.
ECS G736 P4 HT 3.2 - 9600 Pro - 2GB DDR-333 - 80GB@5400 rpm - 15,1" SXGA+ *RiP*
Compal FL90 C2D T7500 - HD 3650 256MB GDDR3 - 4GB DDR2-667 - 120GB@7200 rpm - 15,4" WSXGA+
Asus Eee PC 1005PE Atom N450 - 1GB DDR2-800 - 250GB@5400 rpm - 10,1" WSVGA
Desktop i5-2500K@4,5 - GTX 580@925/1850/1100 - 4GB DDR3-1600 - 128GB SSD & 1TB HDD - 24" 120Hz LED



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