Asus G51Jx Owners Lounge

[rexrzer727]

oh man im getting around 93c peak on my gts 360m on starcraft 2. Im not used to such temps, they are scary! Whats the max(danger zone/critical temps) that i should avoid?

The owners manual says that the notebook should be at 95c.

Two things:

1) are you using a Cooling Pad of some kind, at least elevating the laptop off of the surface it's on?

2) what is the ambient room temp there where you are gaming? If you are playing a game in a room with ambient temperature that is higher than 80-degrees F (26.67-degrees Celsius or higher) you may experience GPU temps that border on the limit for practical purposes, which is about 95-degrees Celsius...with TJ Max being 105-degrees Celsius in the GPU by the way!

Now the CPU AND the GPU will "protect themselves" if maximum Delta is reached, and we call this temperature fyi "TJ MAX" in both Real Temp, Everest, and other utilities...the CPU/GPU will begin to throttle down automatically at any temperature higher than its TJ Max.

For the CPU TJMax is 100-degrees Celsius; for the GPU TJMax is 105-degrees Celsius. Both devices are CERTIFIED to operate at up to that temperature, so there is basically no worry involved with achieving temperatures that are close to TJ Max, in theory anyway this is true.

Yes, true, it IS scary if you are not used to such temps, and you think that things are going badly, and in some respects they ARE going badly if you are reaching such temps easily, and involuntarily, each time you play a particular game for example, like your Starcraft2 Game, which I imagine you enjoy a LOT because it's a great game!

My advice is go ahead and play the game, it is good for your TIM break-in period, and temps should go down 3-5 degrees Celsius after the break-in procedure is finished.

We have Mr. 253 here who lives in Singapore, where ambient room temps where he lives reach upward of 90-degrees F, and his GPU has been known to achieve more than 96-degrees C and it continues to function 100% aok fine, for example of one extreme user here in this group. So in reality your worries should be few and far between, but of course you in your mind are thinking "It's going to RUIN MY GPU/CPU!!!" And that is understandable, honestly it is.

But please, go ahead and trust the temp controller mechanism in the notebook, and play your game, it's going to be aok fine, it really is! Remember that the GPU can hit 105-degrees before it begins to shut down, as I recall, and the CPU 100-degrees C before it begins to shut Cores down to cool itself, and I have experienced this myself when overclocking my desktop CPU's for example, where I have Core i7 920 CPU's in an overclocked envirnoment and I have seen temps of up to 97 sustained degrees when certifying my server desktop with LinX 0.6.3 for a very good example, with 12GB of RAM running in the machine (now it runs 24GB RAM so it's even crazier that the example I am giving you here!), and I experienced some throttling down of the Cores (8 Cores active with HyperThreading in action) @ 4431Mhz (4.431Ghz speed), some 2.5 hours into the LinX certification tests, and the CPU survived to work another day...in fact it works @ 4210Mhz or 4.2Ghz 24/7 365 days a year in my photography studio, fyi! On AIR no H20 Cooling involved also!

But that is neither here nor there for this CPU and we need to concentrate on your issue with the GPU, sorry about that, but I tend to give examples where my mind takes me when writing, so my bad!

I don't want you to unnecessarily worry about the GPU @ 93-95-degrees Celsius in that game because it will take care of itself, push comes to shove, trust me it will! Ideally once the TIM break-in is 100% complete you should see a reduction in such temps, about 3-5 degrees is typical post break-in procedure, and yet again you will maybe see 90-degrees at peak temps even then, and again, I don't want you to worry about it, just play the game and enjoy it!

If Mr. 253's GPU can and has gone in extended periods @ or about 96-degrees C playing GTA:IV, without damaging anything, then you have no worries with your GPU hitting 93-degrees in Starcraft2!

Believe me I know what I write about, these thermal tendencies of the Core i7 CPU's is legendary, and I am an expert overclocker over at EVGA.com, where I am a member of the overclocking Forum there. I hold the highest certified 12GB overclocking on AIR to this day there at EVGA.com, nobody has ever broken my record of 4415Mhz sustained in LinX 0.6.3 for some 20 iterations, which took almost 4 solid hours of running LinX @ that lofty 4.4Ghz speed, and the CPU is fine right now, working away in my studio right next to me here in fact, it's just fine!

That overclocking certification occurred last 2009 summer, so give yourself a break here and do not worry about a little 93-degrees overclocking in the GPU in the new Core i7 720-QM equipped nVidia GTS-360M GPU notebook computer! You are going to be fine, and so is the notebook, ok?

Just try and adjust to a new level of comfortability with your GPU and CPU's now because living with higher than "normal" temps is going to be reality for you and your notebook now, since you have what you have! Relax, and trust the electronics to protect themselves and each other because you now own a very sophisticated product, and it will be doing this at extreme operating temps and will be just fine, just fine!

Take care ,and don't worry so much about the temps at this time, and try and use a Cooling Pad if possible at all times when gaming especially in these high demand GPU games like Starcract2, COD:WAW, GTA:IV, games like those will demand a LOT out of the GPU and it will survive the games and the temps!!!

I am not making light of any of this, because it can become a serious situation if the temps are sustained over a long period of time, but they will not be, you are not going to be damaging anything with game play, as game play has only sporadic or limited maximum temps situations, it's not like testing with Folding@Home @ 100% Load, like I do with my CPUs and GPUs both! And still, my machines are working fine, and they tolerate my overclocking demands, and so will yours!

I hope that this has helped you a little bit, but still I know you are worried, but DO NOT BE!! The GPU will take care of itself, as will your CPU!

Go ahead and play your games, and don't worry about the temps, as the worst thing that is going to happen is some throttling down if it goes above 105-degrees C and I doubt that that is going to happen!

Good luck, and worry less!!

[shinakuma9]

ok i just ran another quick run on starcraft 2 with some more results.

Basically this is what happens.
The fan runs around 70-80% until the gpu hits 90c, then it goes to 100% and the gpu temp goes back down to 86-88 and it keeps going like that in a loop.

Is there a fan control for this so i can run it at 100% all the time and see what happens?

[Jack2727]

Trust me you don't want it to run 100% all the time, its so noisy, just leave the fan as it is and stop worrying, mine does the exact same thing, and I dont worry about it... matter of fact I run at 91 on most of my games...

[MKnight]

No one else has experienced issues hooking up this laptop to an LCD tv via HDMI???!!!!

Pls help me!!! The tv is listed in NVidias control panel but nothing comes up on the screen. This same tv and cable work with other computers via HDMI. I have downloaded the latest NVidia drivers compatible with GeForce 360M chipset..

Someone help me!!!!!

[Jack2727]

No one else has experienced issues hooking up this laptop to an LCD tv via HDMI???!!!!

Pls help me!!! The tv is listed in NVidias control panel but nothing comes up on the screen. This same tv and cable work with other computers via HDMI. I have downloaded the latest NVidia drivers compatible with GeForce 360M chipset..

Someone help me!!!!!

I am also at the same stage as you bud, my laptop does the exact same thing, the settings are applied, the lcd is detected, but nothing appears on screen

[rexrzer727]

No one else has experienced issues hooking up this laptop to an LCD tv via HDMI???!!!!

Pls help me!!! The tv is listed in NVidias control panel but nothing comes up on the screen. This same tv and cable work with other computers via HDMI. I have downloaded the latest NVidia drivers compatible with GeForce 360M chipset..

Someone help me!!!!!

My HDMI works 100% of the time, @ 100% functionality, no issues whatsoever, so HOW do I help somebody whose HDMI capability is zilch, nada, nothing? I cannot help at all unfortunately, wish I could but the only advice I can give is the same I gave the others who asked me to explain why my setup works all the time, every time, at 100% functionality, and I cannot!

There is no magic formula to "fix" bad HDMI to TV output, there are no secrets to having it work, it either does or does NOT! If I knew how to help you I would, but I don't, I am sorry, but that is the way it is.

Can you call Asus Tech Support wherever you are and tell them what is going on, or not going on, and see if they have a fix for you? That would be my suggestion at this point because I cannot give you any advice that will make things snap to grid and work 100% of the time like mine does.

And I have Samsung HDTV's on top of everything else, which is the brand that *doesn't work* 90% of the time, or so the posters tell me...go figure! Mine work perfect! Every time! End of story...!

If anybody could magically tell you what to do to fix this issue they would, but demanding that somebody "Please Help Me!!"" over and over again isn't going to get you anything at all when nobody knows what to do TO help you!

I am sorry, but life isn't fair at times, and this is one of them unfortunately...wish I had some answer, some resolute way to make your notebook's HDMI output work with your HDTV, but there is none: it either works, or it does not, and you are of the latter category unfortunately.

We all wish there was a fix for this, honestly we do, but there is nothing anybody can do to help you at this time as nobody knows what the problem originates from! Either works, or does not, simple answer, simple statement!

Please call your local Asus Tech Support and see what they have to suggest for your problem, that is all I can tell you to do that nobody else has done...

Good luck, and may God Bless...

[MrGMcD]

I am also at the same stage as you bud, my laptop does the exact same thing, the settings are applied, the lcd is detected, but nothing appears on screen

Have any of you guys tried pressing Fn + F8?

Does the trick for me if there is an issue sometimes.

My 2 cents.

Also, my G51Jx-A1 with the free bag and razor abyssus mouse and free bag of jelly beans because of a little hiccup with the power cable set me back $1899 here in Australia. It was a steal from LBO (Logical Blue One). It was one of the two places in Aus selling it for anything under $2k+. Majority were priced the same as the G73-Jx ($2.5K) and still are.

P.S. Woot for parity and the Australian dollar the other day.

[rexrzer727]

I had one shot to do this, just one, and it happened!

10,905 3DMarks

I wouldn't want to do this to my *new* graphiX card but just this
one time, and that's all she wrote. Great GTS-360M video card!

Later Guys and Gals, if any

[MrGMcD]

Figured Id give it a go considering I haven't in a while.

The result I got in 3DMark06 with 600, 2000, 1600 was...

10,501 3DMarks

First test with moderate over clock.

I also have the 2nd revision code in everest.

[rexrzer727]

MrGMcD, that is a very nice score for a modest overclock like that...you have a good card also...

However, it's the last couple hundred that get really hard to get, and keep the machine stable and the driver functioning!

I gave it one last shot to hit 11K tonight, and but for my CPU score would have been there, but what the Hay! 10,942 3DMarks is nothing to sneeze at, and if I do it again some day I might hit the 11K mark after all. Just have to get the right points total in my CPU score, which was "off" a little in that test, for some unknown reason, as that normally stays stable.

I've tested enough this weekend, and swore it off twice, and now I really am swearing it off until further notice with this final post.

I came so awfully close to the 11K mark that it begs for more work, but alas I do NOT want to damage my video card by overclocking it too much, so I quit!

Have a good Sunday everyone, I'll be at the beach in Malibu taking my wife to lunch at our favorite restaurant there, called Paradise Cove Cafe and Grill...best seafood in Malibu by far, and I'm gonna get me some...