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[AlexOnFyre]

Yea I caught that . I almost changed it before posting, but I figured you guys would appreciate my state of mind

[ViciousXUSMC]

Hehe the C2D Conroe Extreme x6800 is now on gentech for a whopping $1049. I think on July 22nd they will cut the price of those by %50 so a $500-525 price tag sounds reasonable for a beast of a processor.

Why would you want the x6800?? for the C90 or for a desktop?

Its good for neather really.

In the c90 a 6700 or 6600 or even lower will still hit the same 2.93ghz level via its overclocking tool.

If its for a desktop, for 266$ you can get the 3.0ghz 1333mhz fsb e6850 instead or the 2.4ghz q6600.

Both of them are much better than the x6800.

[The Forerunner]

I agree with you completely.

Though it is an overclockers dream. It can go up to 3.5 ghz stable and upward bounds of 4 ghz. Just found it interesting no way am I recommending someone to get it unless they are major overclockers. Just found it funny thats all.

[shaddix]

the 6700 and 6600 will both oc to 2.9 with that little button?

[ViciousXUSMC]

yeah in gaming mode they both will be overclocked to 2.93ghz.

I only got the e6700 for my C90 because I got it really cheap and because I wanted a faster non overclocked speed.

as for overclocking limits the 6600, 6700, 6800 ect all have the same levels, some go higher than others.

some of the ES 6850's are hitting 4.5ghz on air!! (G0 steping)

also at the end of july the q6600 are starting to be made on that same G0 steping :P ... thats what I will hunt for if I have the money to upgrade my desktop. Id go for a q6600 @ 3.0ghz for a 24/7 machine and it would probably easily clock 3.6ghz for benchmarks.

I need a new mobo, ram, and cpu for an upgrade tho since I am still using a Opteron 148... thats like half my computer so I think I'll keep saving and just build a whole new machine.

My old one is up for sale just for that reason in the for sale section.

Its possible the C90 will out preform my desktop... but im doubting it a 8600m GT probably cant keep up with my 7800gtx ^^

[The Forerunner]

Wow impressive. Why are the new c2ds so low priced other then the typical "they are designed to coutner amd's star line". Makes no sense how they are so ridiculously low priced.

Seems they aren't that big of a leap in terms of performance which is expected but overclocks like a beast even the e6750 reaches 3.8 ghz stable well which isn't that big of a surprise since the e6600 can reach 3.4 but still the prices are what surprises me.

[ViciousXUSMC]

Yeah they have a good steping and they have pretty much mastered the 65nm process thats why they oc so high. The next step is the 45nm wich even the first ones are expected to do like 4.2-4.5ghz on air.

The thing to keep in mind with teh EXX50 cpus to come out next month is the really high fsb. 1333mhz fsb. To most people they think wow thats good! a even faster/high fsb.

That holds true if you run it at stock speeds (and id personally be very happy with 3ghz stock for a 266$ cpu, for the first time ever thats a killer stock performance cpu at a budget price) for an overclocker tho, it may actually limit your overclock unless you have good luck and some high end hardware. To hit those nice high OC speeds your looking at a 500mhz FSB due to the cpus very low mutliplier.

The P35 boards are doing quite well with it, as are most of the cpu's.

Id probably just stick with 3ghz stock and not worry about it and run a tight ram/fsb ratio.

If I found I needed more power I may push it to 3.4 for a 24/7 system.

But I prefer the quad core over any of them, it may only be 2.4ghz but it should do 3ghz fairly easy and it still has the high multi and low fsb.

Your going to raise the fsb via overclocking so... then you have 4 cores instead of 2, wich will definitly dominate the higher clocked dual core in any app that supports multi core cpus.

Most aps are moving in that direction rather fast if they are cpu depandant and so are some games (suppreme commmander and flight simulator x both support up to 24cores already)

The process of going from single threaded to multi threaded for dual core was slow, but its pretty easy to change any multithreaded app from 2 cores to X cores. So the movement should be faster now and its also standard for dual core cpus to come with a new computer so that will put alot of pressure on companies to make multi threaded apps.

[AlexOnFyre]

Actually the 6700 will overclock to 2.93, the 6600 will be slightly less (2.88). It will OC the FSB up to 1280 but maxes the total clock at 2.93. The 6700 would be close to 3.2 without the limiter.

[ViciousXUSMC]

Oh... very well then :P (im sure we can mod it for the 6600 to go 2.93)

as for the prices. Well intel is just trying to kill AMD. There Pheome is due out soon, and if they eat up the entire market share with there stuff first, amd wont have any customers. Also intel needs to get all the 65nm stuff on market before they release the 45nm stuff.

AMD at this point will have to have a product that can beat the current C2D and Q2D in performance. I have faith that it will. AMD builds great cpus. But they are usually expensive (unless your smart and buy a low end model and overclock it) so to prevent AMD's comeback they are doing a price war.

Now AMD only stands a chance to regain there part of the market if they can produce both a better performing chip and sell it at a close price. Wich with them being behind like this will be hard for them to do.

Lets hope they dont kill AMD off entirly tho, with no competition intel prices will go higher.

[evannnn67]

AMD's only hope right now is the fusion...but it's a strong hope at that...seems to me that they are the furthest along in the CPU/GPU combination technology, which will certainly be the technology of the future...