Asus ROG G55 & G75 in April with gtx 670m

[Kevin]

I've already explained why that isn't true. The leap in power from 560M to 670M will be at least 2x.

[Nemix77]

Unless G55/G75 come with GTX 675M, we will not see a big improvement in the the GPU performance. It will be like the transition from 460M to 560M (minimal)



But, it's improvement nonetheless.

As Kevin has stated it'll be close to GTX 580M (10% slower, IMO) with the same TDP as GTX 560M (70W).

I'm going to bring this up again, but remember the infamous HD 4850 55nm desktop video card with 114W TDP?

The first 40nm card to be released was the HD 4770 which was basically the same card (10% slower), in the same 4000 series and had a 80W TDP compared to HD 4850 114W TDP.

Well, just imagine what the HD 4770 would be if it had the same 114W TDP and was in a higher series eg. higher 5000 series (architecture change)?

Oh that's right it, it became a HD 5770, 40nm, 108W TDP with 20/30% faster performance than a HD 4850 or in other words a close to a 160W TDP HD 4870 (10%).

Considering the GTX 670M has a 30% power reduction compared to last gens GTX 580M (70W versus 100W) and a reduction in die (40nm to 28nm), it'll be like the same comparison of the HD 4850 to HD 4770 transition but with a series change (500M series to 600M series vs. same 4000 series on the desktop) or in other words a HD 4870 turned into HD 5770 with 30% reduction in TDP.

IMO, the GTX 670M will be within 10% performance of the GTX 580M minimal and exactly the same as a GTX 580M maximum (not very likely to be the same as a GTX 580M but you never know) with a 70W TDP.

My guess is the GTX 670M will be based on the GTX 650 Ti desktop card with 448 Cuda cores but with 192-bit memory (GTX 580M = 256-bit and GTX 650 Ti = 224-bit) and has a lower core clock (550Mhz).

[@tilla]

The point isn't the power of a 670. But you discussing about and don't know if there will be a next gen G-series with one of it?
It could be a 650M or 660M. Asus wasn't really able to improve performance since G73JH.

[Nemix77]

@tilla

It's not about ASUS improving performance from the G73 to G74, etc...it's all about NVIDIA's new 28nm 600M series and Intel's 22nm Ivy Bridge (which could improve the performance of the PCIe lanes and how the 22nm CPU is used for gaming) and the fact that everyone knows a reduced die equals same performance with less power or slightly less power with more performance compared to previous generation products.

Well all know the ASUS G74 can handle a 45W CPU and 75W GPU with it's current form factor and judging by the look of the G75 (which hasn't changed much eg. thinner and lighter) it's will be able to handle the same power output but with shrunk die 22nm Ivy Bridge CPU and 28nm 600M GeForce GPU.

Which can only mean one thing, Intel's Ivy Bridge CPU a still 35W/45W TDP with 60% more performance to the IGP (HD 4000, DX11), possibly improved performance to PCIe lanes (affects HDD performance, WiFi performance and discrete GPU performance), improved CPU power (higher core clock) and slightly better battery life.

And NVIDIA's GTX 670M is still 70W TDP with 30% more performance than the last gen card it is replacing (GTX 570M), runs cooler, have new features and is most likely more cost efficient to produce thus leading to faster and cheaper gaming laptops compared to last generation (more like technology leap) gaming laptops.

Edit:

I was planning a getting Qosmio X775 with GTX 560M cause in all honesty I don't need the power of a GTX 670M/GTX 580M for my gaming needs with exception of Crysis 2 which will run on high (butter smooth 60 FPS) on a GTX 670M/GTX 580M and only medium (butter smooth) on a GTX 560M and since Ivy Bridge and GeForce 600M series is nearing release I figured I'd just wait for a Qosmio with GTX 670M (probably 1/2 months after ASUS G75) mainly because I care about new features, less heat/noise/power consumption and more future proof for upcoming games (mainly Crysis 3).

[@tilla]

You don't get it. Where is the info what 6xx GPU the new G75 will have?
Makes no sense to me to speak about the next gen toplevel NVIDIA mobile GPUs without knowing the next G-series will have one.

A G73JH can handle 55W CPUs and 100W GPU.

[Nemix77]

You don't get it. Where is the info what 6xx GPU the new G75 will have?
Makes no sense to me to speak about the next gen toplevel NVIDIA mobile GPUs without knowing the next G-series will have one.

A G73JH can handle 55W CPUs and 100W GPU.

Ah, I think I know where you're going you mean that ASUS may not include a GTX 670M on the G75 right but instead a GTX 660M correct?

This makes even is less sense then what you said before this, why on earth would ASUS include a GTX 660M (50W TDP predicted) that maybe sightly slower to only as fast a GTX 560M on the G75 the successor to G74?

Simple guess, the ASUS G75 will include a GTX 670M which pretty much equals a GTX 580M (still not as fast IMO) and will retail for the same price as the G74 upon first release in 2011, however the current G74's with GTX 560M will see a big price drop or clearance sale just before G75 gets released and shortly after release this way buyers don't feel they got screwed by ASUS, Intel or NVIDIA.

On the topic, if I can get a Qosmio X775 with GTX 560M for say $300+ less than what it sells for now upon the release of the GTX 670M then I may go for that solution because like I've already said a GTX 560M is pretty much perfect for my gaming needs, Ivy is not much faster than Sandy in CPU performance and the HD 3000 is good enough for Windows Aero and web browsing (IMO, 60% more performance to the IGP is not needed on a gaming laptop with discrete GPU but maybe more future proof and useful as web browsers start to aggressively use more GPU hardware acceleration for online games).

[WaffleBoy]

WHY THE SAME UGLY STYLE XD


I hope it'll be better than GeForce GTX 480~!

Maybe I'll sell my G53SW for it. don't you think?

[Nemix77]

NVM...I'm not going to jinx it.

[@tilla]

Ah, I think I know where you're going you mean that ASUS may not include a GTX 670M on the G75 right but instead a GTX 660M correct?

Right.

This makes even is less sense then what you said before this, why on earth would ASUS include a GTX 660M (50W TDP predicted) that maybe sightly slower to only as fast a GTX 560M on the G75 the successor to G74?

Ah, you don't know the Asus best practices yet. ^^
With G74 all were hoping for better performance. But than it was a crippled Onboard-560M. What a booster.
We will see later this year.

[Eclipse251]

according to Notebook Italia the G55/ G75 are supposed to have a GTX 670m.