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6th April 2012, 09:14 PM #21
Re: thinking of getting my first macbook (pro 13)
MSDNAA? I couldn't remember if it was that, MSDNA, or MSDNNA as they all sound right to me. Either way, my university is enrolled in that program through MS. My campus bookstore also sells Office 2010 for Windows and Office 2011 for Mac at $10 each, Windows 7 Ultimate (both x86 and x86-64) for $15, Windows Vista Ultimate for $10, and gives out copies of Windows XP Pro for free. They are all legitimate copies too and not something burned using the computer in the back.
Only MS software is heavily discounted though. The bookstore (or the university) does not offer OS X, MATLAB is still the full student price, AutoCAD is still the full student price, and the same holds true for a bunch of other programs. Only the MS stuff is sold at such inexpensive prices. It also looks like the MSDNAA program will get Windows 8 once that comes out though I have to wait for Parallels to support it.2012 MBP 15" - Core i7 2.3GHz - 16GB 1600MHz DDR3 - 1TB Seagate Momentus XT - OS X 10.8.3
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6th April 2012, 09:36 PM #22
Another reason MS charges so much more for the OS than Apple is because that's all MS has. That's all they sell whereas Apple sells hardware too.
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6th April 2012, 09:40 PM #23
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6th April 2012, 10:37 PM #24
Re: thinking of getting my first macbook (pro 13)
Same difference. MSDN AA (Academic Alliance).
And damn, I wish my school had those low prices. At my undergrad school, Windows XP and Vista were $30 each, legit discs. It just varies from place to place. I have friends that got Windows & Office for free through their school. I'm jealous!
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7th April 2012, 03:37 AM #25
I meant computer-wise. Apple can make money from the computer sales so they don't need to charge as much whereas Microsoft doesn't sell any computers (except for the Xbox which isn't what I'm talking about) to make money from.
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7th April 2012, 06:48 AM #26
Re: thinking of getting my first macbook (pro 13)
That's not really why they charge "so much" compared to Apple. MS offers a bunch of different software solutions to home, business, and enterprise users ranging from operating systems, office productivity software, they now own Skype, server setups, and mobile phone software. MS is into everything and they even make a large portion of money off of every Android phone released. The main difference is that MS releases a new set of operating systems once every few years whereas Apple has lately been pushing out a new OS once every year or two.
Like I said, by the time you add up the costs of buying a home release of Windows every 3-4 years, it is about the same as buying a $30 OS X upgrade (which have been more like service packs lately) every year. They are just two different approaches to different OS strategies. You can add minor upgrades once a year or you can wait things out so that the upgrades seem more major by releasing something every 3-4 years.2012 MBP 15" - Core i7 2.3GHz - 16GB 1600MHz DDR3 - 1TB Seagate Momentus XT - OS X 10.8.3
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9th April 2012, 05:56 PM #27Notebook Deity
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Re: thinking of getting my first macbook (pro 13)
How is MS making a large portion off of Android?
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9th April 2012, 07:06 PM #28
Re: thinking of getting my first macbook (pro 13)
MS owns several patents used by LG, HTC, and and Samsung for their Android smartphones and tablets. I think a website calculated it out and MS essentially gets a few dollar for every smartphone and tablet that those company sell. By the time it all adds up, MS is pulling patent fees from 53% of every Android smartphone sold in the U.S. (55% worldwide). There's even another company called Compal that makes Android smartphones and tablets for other company. Microsoft's deal with them nets MS $28 billion annually.
All of those are patent license agreements where a company is using Android but also using Microsoft patents. About the only company that hasn't folded is Motorola but this all came about when they were being swallowed by Google. Either way, that will all probably change since the big three (HTC, LG, and Samsung) couldn't fend off MS.2012 MBP 15" - Core i7 2.3GHz - 16GB 1600MHz DDR3 - 1TB Seagate Momentus XT - OS X 10.8.3
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9th April 2012, 11:07 PM #29Know Nothing
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Honestly if any company is still in the same sentence as Apple financially it's already spectacular. But MS pulls EXTREMELY high profit margins.
Granted, Apple pulls tremendous profit margins as well for a mainly hardware supplier (e.g. compared to Samsung).
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10th April 2012, 08:50 AM #30Notebook Evangelist
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Re: thinking of getting my first macbook (pro 13)
MS makes about $5USD-$15USD per handset, depending on the manufacturer. They have different deals with different companies. As far as I know, they all settled instead of going to court.
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