MBP, good but my complaints so far.

[yodachoda]

1. Took a few seconds for OS to show up after I turned it on.
2. Was stuck at 98/99% charging for a long time before being fully charged.
3. When I unplugged the power, it said "calculating" for charge left. Would be nice if it instantly showed the charge left.
4. There is a very small selection of wallpapers and screen savers from the presets.
5. When I hit the space key there's an annoying click sound
6. The layout of the windows is a little bland in coloring/style
7. The charger is magnetic and annoying

Other than that, good so far. I just got a 2011 2.4ghz MBP 13 inch.

[s2odin]

Originally Posted by yodachoda

1. Took a few seconds for OS to show up after I turned it on.
2. Was stuck at 98/99% charging for a long time before being fully charged.
3. When I unplugged the power, it said "calculating" for charge left. Would be nice if it instantly showed the charge left.
4. There is a very small selection of wallpapers and screen savers from the presets.
5. When I hit the space key there's an annoying click sound
6. The layout of the windows is a little bland in coloring/style
7. The charger is magnetic and annoying

Other than that, good so far. I just got a 2011 2.4ghz MBP 13 inch.

1. Windows does that too.
2. It won't charge to 100% if it's between 95-99%
3. Does it also irritate you that when you plug it in it says "Not charging" for 2 seconds then shows the %?
4. Who uses the default wallpaper?
5. Sorry the space bars makes a noise.
6. Sorry it's not flashy like windows.
7. Sorry it's magnetic and if you trip over it you're not like to pull your notebook down with it and break.

[masterchef341]

Originally Posted by yodachoda

1. Took a few seconds for OS to show up after I turned it on.
2. Was stuck at 98/99% charging for a long time before being fully charged.
3. When I unplugged the power, it said "calculating" for charge left. Would be nice if it instantly showed the charge left.
4. There is a very small selection of wallpapers and screen savers from the presets.
5. When I hit the space key there's an annoying click sound
6. The layout of the windows is a little bland in coloring/style
7. The charger is magnetic and annoying

Other than that, good so far. I just got a 2011 2.4ghz MBP 13 inch.

So you have no real issues despite looking extremely hard for them. Congratulations. I'll try and address some of your points with a little less snootiness.

1. All computers take time to boot and load. PC. Mac. Linux. There is no way around it. Crazy world. You'll just have to accept this as the state of the technology if you want to use any computer.

2. Explained above. To add a little more detail- the reason this happens is that lithium ion batteries can explode if overcharged. After being charged fully, and then discharged only very slightly, there is a moderate risk of damage if charged again.

3. It might annoy you less if you understand why it is how it is. If you click on the battery icon, you can change between percentage charge, or time remaining. If you pick percentage charge, it will give charge percentage information instantly, whether plugged in or not. If you show time remaining, it estimates your battery consumption rate to predict how long the computer will run, given your current usage. This can change dramatically depending on how you are using the computer, screen brightness, etc.

Since it isn't using the battery before you unplug the machine (and partially because there are many variables that are likely to change right when you unplug it) it can only start collecting this information right when you unplug it. It takes a few seconds to collect enough information to make a reasonable prediction.

If you don't like that functionality, just switch to show percentage instead of time remaining.

4. You can actually use any image you want as the wallpaper. There are third party screensavers as well. They have the extension .saver if I am not mistaken. I wouldn't worry about the presets, because you have access to the sum of all digitized content ever created and put on the internet.

5. All keys make a click sound. Does this sound bother you because it is different than the sound made by the smaller keys? I'm testing my keyboards, the spacebar makes a unique sound on all of them. I think it's because of the different shape and size. Maybe someone else can chime in on this. It's not an issue for me on the mac, or any other keyboard. I've tested several so far. I think you may have to just accept this if you want to use a laptop with a physical keyboard, along the lines of point #1.

6. Style is subjective, but many people have a strong preference for the OS X windowing style. Windows, by comparison, is very bright and very blue. The less intense colors and minimalistic interface in OS X help to draw your attention to the content in the window, rather than the window itself. While you're scrutinizing the OS itself for the first time, you might feel a certain way, but I would give it some time and second consideration after actually using the laptop for purposes other than an exploration of the laptop. It makes a lot of sense when you think about the real purpose of an interface in the first place. I suspect it will grow on you.

7. I actually somewhat agree with this. The charger is annoying, not really just because it's magnetic, but because of the shape of the connector. They redesigned it pretty recently because the original connector was prone to coming loose over time from the cable. The new design solves that problem, but it is a bit annoying, for me. The old design was also magnetic, granted, but it was actually pretty amazing and not annoying at all. I can't quite put words to my thoughts on this point, but it basically comes down to the shape of the connector.

[doh123]

Originally Posted by yodachoda

1. Took a few seconds for OS to show up after I turned it on.

and? you really think it can boot instantly? What machine actually does?

Originally Posted by yodachoda

2. Was stuck at 98/99% charging for a long time before being fully charged.

if charges slower near 100%, and if you plug it in when its over 95% but not yet 100%, then it will not even charge at all. This is for your benefit so your battery will last longer before going bad and needing to be replaced.

Originally Posted by yodachoda

3. When I unplugged the power, it said "calculating" for charge left. Would be nice if it instantly showed the charge left.

you want to waste the CPU time for this to be calculated constantly? Or you want it to drop everything going on on the computer and calculate this information so that your computer will not do anything until the calculation is finished? You do realize that getting an estimated time is not a simple calculation... right?

Originally Posted by yodachoda

4. There is a very small selection of wallpapers and screen savers from the presets.

ok?

Originally Posted by yodachoda

5. When I hit the space key there's an annoying click sound

bigger keys can be more noisy than smaller keys...

Originally Posted by yodachoda

6. The layout of the windows is a little bland in coloring/style

I think it looks great... nice and simple without being obtrusive.

Originally Posted by yodachoda

7. The charger is magnetic and annoying

annoying how? The power plug is awesome...

[masterchef341]

Originally Posted by doh123

you want to waste the CPU time for this to be calculated constantly? Or you want it to drop everything going on on the computer and calculate this information so that your computer will not do anything until the calculation is finished? You do realize that getting an estimated time is not a simple calculation... right?

it's actually a real-time issue, not a CPU-time issue, and there is no way to calculate it before unplugging the laptop. a 2.6 ghz quad-core i7 macbook pro and a core 2 duo macbook air should both take the same time to calculate the battery remaining time. it is a simple calculation. It wouldn't take much processing power to calculate constantly (update once per second, for example, like a clock), but since the estimation isn't that accurate, it simply isn't necessary. There's a clock sitting right next to the time remaining timer that uses at least as much CPU power, all the time.

[privatejarhead]

Originally Posted by yodachoda

1. Took a few seconds for OS to show up after I turned it on.
2. Was stuck at 98/99% charging for a long time before being fully charged.
3. When I unplugged the power, it said "calculating" for charge left. Would be nice if it instantly showed the charge left.
4. There is a very small selection of wallpapers and screen savers from the presets.
5. When I hit the space key there's an annoying click sound
6. The layout of the windows is a little bland in coloring/style
7. The charger is magnetic and annoying

Other than that, good so far. I just got a 2011 2.4ghz MBP 13 inch.

So then.... you don't have any problems?

1) That's just how storage works. Even with a SSD, I still wait a few seconds before seeing the login screen.

2) You don't want to charge a Li-Pol (or LI-Ion) batteries at 100% anyway. Likewise, don't discharge them fully (or nearly fully) sine that'd also damage the battery.

3) Real-time issue, as stated above.

4) Don't we have the Internet to solve that?

5) It's a keyboard...

6) Perhaps you could change the window manager (maybe run Gnome on OSX? )

7) Wha? I want a magnetic charger... However I can't due to patents (but that's a whole other rant).

[JuicyBoogers]

One thing that annoys me and i have yet to figure it out. When i transfer files to say desktop from a folder on my drive...it pops up eevery time asking for my password! Im already logged into my account, stop asking me for my damn password again!

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by JuicyBoogers

One thing that annoys me and i have yet to figure it out. When i transfer files to say desktop from a folder on my drive...it pops up eevery time asking for my password! Im already logged into my account, stop asking me for my damn password again!

Ah man, your sig...

8TB DDR3?

[Michel.K]

OP seems like a real troll imho.. Or has never actually used a computer before..

Originally Posted by privatejarhead

So then.... you don't have any problems?


2) You don't want to charge a Li-Pol (or LI-Ion) batteries at 100% anyway. Likewise, don't discharge them fully (or nearly fully) sine that'd also damage the battery.

Can you show me any info to back that statement up that says it damages the battery to use discharge or charge it fully? Do you mean, use it until it shuts down and then turn it on and let it die again until it's fully discharged or simply when it shuts down the first time?

I thought apple had batterys that you don't need to take any special care when it comes to that and just use it any way you like.. Atleast that is what i remember after reading their FAQ about their batterys.. Maybe they just say so..

[privatejarhead]

Originally Posted by Michel.K

OP seems like a real troll imho.. Or has never actually used a computer before..

Could be possible

Can you show me any info to back that statement up that says it damages the battery to use discharge or charge it fully? Do you mean, use it until it shuts down and then turn it on and let it die again until it's fully discharged or simply when it shuts down the first time?

I thought apple had batterys that you don't need to take any special care when it comes to that and just use it any way you like.. Atleast that is what i remember after reading their FAQ about their batterys.. Maybe they just say so..

Here's an article explaining that Li-Poly batteries aren't any different from Li-Ion batteries. Having a true Li-Poly battery work at room temperature is currently impossible, so what battery makers have done instead is to substitute the liquid electrolytes with a gelled version, but otherwise Li-Poly and Li-Ion are electrically the same thing.

Another article from that website explains how charging works, and of special interest to your question: why overcharging/over-discharging is bad:

Overcharging:

Spoiler :

Lithium-ion operates safely within the designated operating voltages; however, the battery becomes unstable if inadvertently charged to a higher than specified voltage. Prolonged charging above 4.30V forms plating of metallic lithium on the anode, while the cathode material becomes an oxidizing agent, loses stability and produces carbon dioxide (CO2). The cell pressure rises, and if charging is allowed to continue the current interrupt device (CID) responsible for cell safety disconnects the current at 1,380kPa (200psi).

Should the pressure rise further, a safety membrane bursts open at 3,450kPa (500psi) and the cell might eventually vent with flame. The thermal runaway moves lower when the battery is fully charged; for Li-cobalt this threshold is between 130–150C°C (266–302°F), nickel-manganese-cobalt (NMC) is 170–180°C (338–356°F), and manganese is 250°C (482°F). Li-phosphate enjoys similar and better temperature stabilities than manganese.

Lithium-ion is not the only battery that is a safety hazard if overcharged. Lead- and nickel-based batteries are also known to melt down and cause fire if improperly handled. Nickel-based batteries have also been recalled for safety concerns. Properly designed charging equipment is paramount for all battery systems.

Over-Discharging:

Spoiler :

Li-ion should never be discharged too low, and there are several safeguards to prevent this from happening. The equipment cuts off when the battery discharges to about 3.0V/cell, stopping the current flow. If the discharge continues to about 2.70V/cell or lower, the battery’s protection circuit puts the battery into a sleep mode. This renders the pack unserviceable and a recharge with most chargers is not possible. To prevent a battery from falling asleep, apply a partial charge before a long storage period.

Battery manufacturers ship batteries with a 40 percent charge. The low charge state reduces aging-related stress while allowing some self-discharge during storage. To minimize the current flow for the protection circuit before the battery is sold, advanced Li-ion packs feature a sleep mode that disables the protection circuit until activated by a brief charge or discharge. Once engaged, the battery remains operational and the on state can no longer be switched back to the standby mode.

Do not recharge lithium-ion if a cell has stayed at or below 1.5V for more than a week. Copper shunts may have formed inside the cells that can lead to a partial or total electrical short. If recharged, the cells might become unstable, causing excessive heat or showing other anomalies. Li-ion packs that have been under stress are more sensitive to mechanical abuse, such as vibration, dropping and exposure to heat.

Of course, there are some safety precautions built into the batteries so that these events are unlikely, but it's still never a good idea to push a battery to its limits.

Li‑ion polymer, also referred as Li-polymer, is very similar to a regular lithium-ion battery and no changes in algorithm are necessary. Most users won’t even know if their battery is Li‑ion or Li‑polymer. The word “polymer” has been used as promotional hype and does not reflect special attributes other than to know that the battery is built in a different way to a standard Li-ion.

Basically, Apple (and anyone else selling Li-Poly batteries) are using their marketing hype to try to claim that no special care is needed. It's still entirely possible to explode a Li-Poly battery if you abuse it.