Chances of the next gen MBP lacking optical drive but with 2 HDDs

[Magjua]

So can I assume that my question regarding the two drives and program locations was completely wrong and nor worth answering?

[HardBall]

Even with a 7200rpm drive in the superdrive slot? And from what i hear ssds pretty much put out no heat. True?

If temps wont be an issue then ill do ahead and do this.

Not likely going 2 b a problem. Most designs have some design safety factor in terms of thermal envelope. And if u have 1 ssd and 1 hdd in a laptop, the total thermals is not likely to exceed that of a hdd + optical when running. SSD, with the right design and chips, have much lower termal output of a spindle drive, and likely has lower thermals of an optical as well.

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[kornchild2002]

Right. From what I have read online, SSDs produce a much smaller amount of heat than HDDs even when they (the SSDs) are consistently being accessed. I did notice this with my 13" MBP after swapping out the HDD for an SSD and later opening it up again. I had been running my MBP for 3 hours and shut it down to install the SSD. The HDD was still rather hot. One day (much later), I had to open up my MBP. I touched the SSD after everything had been running for 4 hours and it was warm. So that right there won't be an issue. Swap out the optical drive and putting in an HDD shouldn't be a problem either even if it is replaced with a 7200RPM HDD. I don't know if any speed advantages will be observed in doing that especially since the optical bay is limited to SATA I but it can still be done. Personally I suggest buying a 5400 RPM 1TB HDD instead and having the extra capacity since you probably aren't going to see any benefit in going with a 7200RPM HDD.

Magjua, I didn't realize that we had to stop and answer your question. These forums are mostly made up of volunteers and people are allowed to pick and choose which ones they want to answer. What you did was essentially make a question and then bump it the next day by trying to insult the volunteers you were asking for an answer. Good luck with that.

[HardBall]

Right. From what I have read online, SSDs produce a much smaller amount of heat than HDDs even when they (the SSDs) are consistently being accessed. I did notice this with my 13" MBP after swapping out the HDD for an SSD and later opening it up again. I had been running my MBP for 3 hours and shut it down to install the SSD. The HDD was still rather hot. One day (much later), I had to open up my MBP. I touched the SSD after everything had been running for 4 hours and it was warm. So that right there won't be an issue. Swap out the optical drive and putting in an HDD shouldn't be a problem either even if it is replaced with a 7200RPM HDD. I don't know if any speed advantages will be observed in doing that especially since the optical bay is limited to SATA I but it can still be done. Personally I suggest buying a 5400 RPM 1TB HDD instead and having the extra capacity since you probably aren't going to see any benefit in going with a 7200RPM HDD.

Magjua, I didn't realize that we had to stop and answer your question. These forums are mostly made up of volunteers and people are allowed to pick and choose which ones they want to answer. What you did was essentially make a question and then bump it the next day by trying to insult the volunteers you were asking for an answer. Good luck with that.

Just a warning though, there is a chance that the optical drive opening plays a role in the dissipation of heat from the logic board and the chassis. Some designs with a slot load drive figures the slot opening as a contributor to thermal dissipation, I don't know about the current MBP specifically. So u might want to chose those third party designs that mimic the structure of the AAPL designed bay, and ones that do not obstruct air flow, just 2 b on the safe sdie.

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[kornchild2002]

I don't think there really is any airflow coming out of the super drives on the MBP's. Apple has come type of cover over the slots anyway so any airflow is going to be obstructed. Besides, that would all be airflow coming from the super drive itself and not the cooling system in a MBP. Given that the cover is made of some type of heavy fabric (felt), I also doubt they are using it to dissipate heat. It appears that Apple is relying on the chassis to dissipate a portion of heat while using the cooling system to really take things up if need be. I don't think they are using the super drive to dissipate any excess heat.

[HardBall]

I don't think there really is any airflow coming out of the super drives on the MBP's. Apple has come type of cover over the slots anyway so any airflow is going to be obstructed. Besides, that would all be airflow coming from the super drive itself and not the cooling system in a MBP. Given that the cover is made of some type of heavy fabric (felt), I also doubt they are using it to dissipate heat. It appears that Apple is relying on the chassis to dissipate a portion of heat while using the cooling system to really take things up if need be. I don't think they are using the super drive to dissipate any excess heat.

Sounds good, no worries then, everything should work fine

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[ThinkPaid]

They might offer dual SSDs in the 17" (expect to spend close to $500 or more ) model but why would they go ssd and then still have the old technology in there? not something apple would do. besides the new ones are basically confirmed to be as thing as the air's which would make the 2.5 drives a huge hassle to fit in there (if even possible)

[kornchild2002]

There is a huge difference between "basically confirmed" and "rumors that have been popping up for over a year now." Nothing has been "basically confirmed," absolutely nothing. Apple could refresh their entire notebook series to be just like the current MBA, they could introduce MBA's with larger displays and keep them separate from the MBP, or they can keep their current lineup as-is. Nothing will be confirmed until it is officially announced by Apple. Until then, any information is just conjecture often spit out by websites just trying to generate hits and ad revenue.

[JuicyBoogers]

Im quite surprised how cool my MBP runs now with SSD and the 7200rpm drive out. After hours it being on, it doesnt even get warm on the palmrest where the 7200rpm always was warm.

I also think it turns the fans on less often too, but not sure if thats just me hoping.

I dont think ill put the 7200rpm drive in cause itll just make it noiser again. I like how its completely silent right now. Im guessing if i put the 7200rpm drive in the superdrive itll make the fans run more often again. if so then ill do without it, its nice this way before my fans would always run on max often for short spurts here and there, very annoying.

[masterchef341]

There is a huge difference between "basically confirmed" and "rumors that have been popping up for over a year now." Nothing has been "basically confirmed," absolutely nothing. Apple could refresh their entire notebook series to be just like the current MBA, they could introduce MBA's with larger displays and keep them separate from the MBP, or they can keep their current lineup as-is. Nothing will be confirmed until it is officially announced by Apple. Until then, any information is just conjecture often spit out by websites just trying to generate hits and ad revenue.

this is very true.

The only thing we know for sure is that IF apple does a redesign and models their 15"+ offerings on the macbook air, there is no way they will suddenly go for 2x 2.5" hard drives, and there's a good chance there would be 0x 2.5" hard drives.

That doesn't even begin to answer the question of if/when apple will push a redesign on their 15"+ display laptops.