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    Default Re: NVIDIA GeForce 260.63 Verde Beta - Discuss Here

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychotic deformity View Post
    which toon do you use? Do you have a lot of effects going on or not?

    For me it appears this is the source of the issue, since I play only with a Siren, phasewalking every 5 seconds and using phoenix... you can imagine.
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    nah I have investigated the issue with Unclewebb and what is happening is in fact the cpu throttling! I most probably would encounter the same issue with every other toon using elemental damage and other graphical effects, maybe just less often.

    Now I know for certain that nvidia drivers play a part in this, but all in all it's Dell fault since the throttling isn't related to high temperatures AT ALL, it must be either the power adaptater or a bug/badly implemented function in the bios.

    What is funny is that we have exactly the same config, yet I encounter the issue and you don't. May I ask if you run your 9300 overclocked?

    Anyway, using the clock modulation of throttlestop makes the game playable again without having to use one year old nvidia drivers.
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    Default Re: NVIDIA GeForce 260.63 Verde Beta - Discuss Here

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychotic deformity View Post
    nah I have investigated the issue with Unclewebb and what is happening is in fact the cpu throttling! I most probably would encounter the same issue with every other toon using elemental damage and other graphical effects, maybe just less often.

    Now I know for certain that nvidia drivers play a part in this, but all in all it's Dell fault since the throttling isn't related to high temperatures AT ALL, it must be either the power adaptater or a bug/badly implemented function in the bios.

    What is funny is that we have exactly the same config, yet I encounter the issue and you don't. May I ask if you run your 9300 overclocked?

    Anyway, using the clock modulation of throttlestop makes the game playable again without having to use one year old nvidia drivers.
    Interesting, as I was using Throttlestop on my work E6400 until today having now updated it to a newer BIOS which apparently fixes it (keeping an eye on it at the moment). Maybe a new BIOS for the M17x is not long behind.

    Will try Throttlestop with BL myself tonight.
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    Default Re: NVIDIA GeForce 260.63 Verde Beta - Discuss Here

    still getting alot of freezing and have to do hard reboot. somehow my m17x doesnt like the 2xx drivers. all of the 2xx drivers i tried always gives me lots of random freeze. average of 10 times a day

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    Default Re: NVIDIA GeForce 260.63 Verde Beta - Discuss Here

    After an hour of tf2 with these drivers, I just got a BSOD.

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    Default Re: NVIDIA GeForce 260.63 Verde Beta - Discuss Here

    Quote Originally Posted by Taomyn View Post
    Interesting, as I was using Throttlestop on my work E6400 until today having now updated it to a newer BIOS which apparently fixes it (keeping an eye on it at the moment). Maybe a new BIOS for the M17x is not long behind.

    Will try Throttlestop with BL myself tonight.
    Looks like I am suffering with the throttling too, I just hadn't noticed it was that and assumed as it only manifested itself on the odd occasion that it was down to some other background process. It was slowing things down to almost 50%

    Now with Throttlestop I can force it to run at the systems true speed all the time, though I struggled to get it to set itself up with the correct values for the maximum clock values - had to manually edit the INI files as it insisted on 7x instead of 9.5x and an incorrect value for the core VID.
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    Default Re: NVIDIA GeForce 260.63 Verde Beta - Discuss Here

    Well I'm glad my issues helped someome else ^^ or... maybe you wish you never knew you had an issue lol I have to say I'm a bit relieved I'm not the only one...

    The fact that the throttling is worse for me (60 to 2 fps then back up after a few seconds) might be related to my overclocking since you appear to be running at stock speeds. Do you run at stock voltages too, or do you undervolt?

    I need to try 9.5x at 1.050v (currently 11x at 1,162v), see what happens.

    Anyway, like I said all nvidia drivers this year made this issue appear for me so I guess throttlestop will have to do for now (until I decide I want a new machine and start harassing support lolz).
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    Default Re: NVIDIA GeForce 260.63 Verde Beta - Discuss Here

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychotic deformity View Post
    Well I'm glad my issues helped someome else ^^ or... maybe you wish you never knew you had an issue lol I have to say I'm a bit relieved I'm not the only one...

    The fact that the throttling is worse for me (60 to 2 fps then back up after a few seconds) might be related to my overclocking since you appear to be running at stock speeds. Do you run at stock voltages too, or do you undervolt?

    I need to try 9.5x at 1.050v (currently 11x at 1,162v), see what happens.

    Anyway, like I said all nvidia drivers this year made this issue appear for me so I guess throttlestop will have to do for now (until I decide I want a new machine and start harassing support lolz).
    I think mine's set to 9.5x 1.115v - I'll double check tonight.

    As the E6400 BIOS that fixes the issue only came out in August (the previous one was January) I'm hoping Dell will still come out with a fix soon.

    **Update** VID = 1.150v
    Last edited by Taomyn; 5th October 2010 at 03:01 PM. Reason: Correct VID
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    Default Re: NVIDIA GeForce 260.63 Verde Beta - Discuss Here

    Update
    I decided to give this drivers another go and I have been running them for a week with Hybrid off - Integrated off and I have had no problems, but as soon as I turned Hybrid on computer locked up a couple of times.

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    Default Re: NVIDIA GeForce 260.63 Verde Beta - Discuss Here

    Only 1 BSOD so far. Haven't tried SLI mode.

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