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    Default Fresh OS install on OCZ SSD @r3

    A few of us have had major issues getting our OCZ (and Kingston) SSD's to play nice with our r3's. Here's some background, which was originally discovered by Mandrake.


    1. r3's are shipping with SATA set to RAID in bios, even with only 1 HDD present.
    2. OCZ's sandforce SSD's typically ship with extremely old firmware. You need to update this firmware before installing OS. This can only be done within windows, and only on slave drives. EDIT: any firmware before 1.29 can result in you experiencing what OCZ refers to as "Time Warp" (you lose all info stored on drive since last boot - happens at random). 1.29 decreases likelihood of this happening, but does not eliminate the possibility.
    3. If you boot in RAID with HDD + SSD, windows does not detect the SSD (because it's not in the array).
    4. If you boot in AHCI or ATA, you BSOD
    5. Attaching SSD via SATA-to-USB = OCZ toolbox does not detect it
    6. RST versions before 10.x do not work with HM67 chipset. RST 10.x will cause your r3 to crash whenever the drive on port 1 (2nd slot) is accessed. This means NO RAID via RST. See my post @OCZ for details. Issue currently outstanding with no intent to fix in the near future. OCZ says intel is re-writing RST for rev b3 anyway, so they won't even look at it until then.





    So, how are you going to update this SSD? If you have a desktop, or a different notebook with 2 HDD bays, you're in luck - try that first! Otherwise, follow these simple 50 steps.

    EDIT: Alternate - easier - method here - requires eSATA (by San Diego 7697)
    1. Backup any files you want to keep
    2. Download the r3 chipset and wireless/ethernet drivers (link later) and put them on a disk or usb. It's also a good time to grab the rest of the drivers.
    3. Start -> F2 to enter bios -> Advanced -> Change SATA from "RAID" to "AHCI". Insert Windows7 OEM disk. Save & Exit (F10)
    4. F12 to select boot device. Pick CD/DVD/BD. Re-install windows on the HDD
    5. Once in windows, install chipset drivers & unpack the wireless drivers. Copy the directory wireless was unpacked to. (for some reason, dell decided against including an exe with this driver set)
    6. run Device Manager, find Unknown Wireless Device, right click, update...
    7. paste unpacked wireless driver directory and watch it install. Restart computer.
    8. Run OCZ toolbox as administrator -> select drive -> security tab (I think) -> Update Firmware. toolbox will connect to webwebs and update. Turn off your r3 when this is completed.
    9. remove HDD from slot 0, replace with SSD, move HDD to slot 1 [is this step necessary?]
    10. Power your system, F12 if required to boot from CD
    11. Erase OS from HDD, install on SSD
    12. Victory


    Thank you Mandrake for posting your experience with Vertex LE. My issue was with Vertex 2. This issue exists for all OCZ sandforce SSD.
    Last edited by kunekaden; 9th March 2011 at 11:54 AM.

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    Default Re: Fresh OS install on OCZ SSD @r3

    After a Scary Firmware OCZ Vertex 2 update (was already the Primary drive). The next couple of times (on different systems, I put the SSD in an eSata dockng station went through the process of initializing the drive (from the Win 7 OS running a Raid 0) then used the OCZ toolbox to update the firmware.

    After that the SSD was good to go for what I wanted to do with it (in my case I was switching from Raid 0 to SSD non Raid) i.e performed a clean install
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    Default Re: Fresh OS install on OCZ SSD @r3

    I'm in a similar situation.

    My R3 came with a single, magnetic hard drive. I already had an OCZ Vertex2 before I even ordered the PC, so I figured to installed Windows 7 fresh on that and pull the original hard drive from the R3 and hang onto it in case I ever need to send the R3 to the factory.

    I read Mandrake's article, and so last night I installed the Vertex2 in the second hard drive bay (1) and fired up the OS as usual on my primary, original drive, and then installed the OCZ toolbox.

    It was at this point I ran into a problem: the OCZ Toolbox would not detect the Vertex2 even though it was right there in device manager. After some research, I found that apparently the OCZ Toolbox doesn't work with the Intel version 10 drivers. Uninstalling the drive from device manager didn't help, for as soon as I launched the toolbox again, Windows would load the drivers and detection of the drive by the toolbox would fail once more.

    There is apparently an extremely convoluted way to use a Linux boot environment to maybe successfully run the firmware update, but I am not feeling up to that task right now.

    Has anyone else run into this problem? And have you been able to solve it? The instructions above seem to be an extension of those Mandrake already mentioned.

    Thanks for any help that you can provide.

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    Default Re: Fresh OS install on OCZ SSD @r3

    That's exactly what happened to Mandrake and I. Follow the steps I laid out and you'll be golden - and yes, the above steps are based on what Mandrake posted. My goal was to silly-proof them (because I read what drake posted and still couldn't get it working for 2 hours).

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    Default Re: Fresh OS install on OCZ SSD @r3

    kunekaden,

    Your instructions seem to indicate that I need to reinstall Windows on the original hard drive? I'm sorry if I'm not understanding them clearly. Head cold today and my brain is fogged.

    If that's the case, that's not an option for me. I wish to keep my original hard drive intact if I can at all. Basically as a fallback in case things go wrong with all my plans for the R3.

    I suppose I can image the original hard drive, but am I correct in my reading of your instructions? I'm looking at clean installs of Windows on both the original hard drive and then the SSD once I can actually update the firmware?

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    Default Re: Fresh OS install on OCZ SSD @r3

    Quote Originally Posted by Roykirk View Post
    kunekaden,

    Your instructions seem to indicate that I need to reinstall Windows on the original hard drive? I'm sorry if I'm not understanding them clearly. Head cold today and my brain is fogged.

    If that's the case, that's not an option for me. I wish to keep my original hard drive intact if I can at all. Basically as a fallback in case things go wrong with all my plans for the R3.

    I suppose I can image the original hard drive, but am I correct in my reading of your instructions? I'm looking at clean installs of Windows on both the original hard drive and then the SSD once I can actually update the firmware?
    If you want to do it with your existing drive you much first go through the process of switching from a RAID to AHCI. The instructions are documented here: Tutorial : How to switch from IRRT to AHCI mode - E6400/E6500 (Vista)

    Note: I never tried these instructions to validate them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roykirk View Post
    kunekaden,

    Your instructions seem to indicate that I need to reinstall Windows on the original hard drive? I'm sorry if I'm not understanding them clearly. Head cold today and my brain is fogged.
    That's what I'm saying, yes.
    Nice link, Mandrake. I wonder if it really works.

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    Default Re: Fresh OS install on OCZ SSD @r3

    Mandrake,

    Thanks for the link. I did try the MS portion of the fix—modifying the registry key—but as with the original poster in that thread, it didn't work.

    Unfortunately, that post details a chipset other than the one we have in the R3, so I've no idea what the registry key and hex code are for our chipset to make the extra changes he details.

    Looks like I'm stuck for now and will have to look into that unwieldy Linux boot solution I found yesterday.

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    Default Re: Fresh OS install on OCZ SSD @r3

    I'm assuming you want to keep the files on your OS partition of momentus slim?

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    Default Re: Fresh OS install on OCZ SSD @r3

    Yes, I want to keep the Momentus pretty much as is, only using it to prep the Vertex2 for use as my main drive. I got the cheapest OS (Home Premium) with the R3 since I'm a TechNet subscriber and plan to use Ultimate going forward.

    However, should it need to go back to the factory, I can pull my Vertex2, put the original back, and that way my data is safe and I don't get a computer back without my expensive SSD.

    Looking in more detail at the Linux method, I'm not even sure that one will work either. The fact that it wants to have internet access in that limited boot environment worries me, as I'm skeptical that the drivers for the NIC in the Linux environment will work with the R3.

    However, I'll attempt it anyhow.

    I'll report back after I try it sometime this weekend.

 

 
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