6930G upgrades

[paymey]

I decided to modify the cooling, pictures describe what I did. This is a prototype .
differences:
Test3-91/89C and now 70/69C
Test4-103/101C and now 80/79C TS Bench 1024 High Scores 985.694 and now 961.110

The weather was nice without the hot air, about 15C. Now I'm ready for hot weather .

Can you believe

[paymey]

Well, I got the QX9300 today and tried it out.......

*drum roll*

No joy.. System will not post.

Of course, it could be a bad processor but I doubt it. More likely it's simply a BIOS issue since the motherboard does have the correct chipset to support this processor. Although if it did post the heatsink would need a little bit of modification to work properly but I had a plan for that.

In any case, I can say definitively that the QX9300 will not work in the 6930G - at least not in my system.

So I am on the hunt for T9900, X9100 or E8435 SLGEA.

Michael

I have a banal question, you have the latest bios? This is important when connecting Q or X9100

[Radius]

I have a banal question, you have the latest bios? This is important when connecting Q or X9100

Yes, I have the newest bios installed.

Michael

[Radius]

Well, I got all my parts and got my machine back together tonight..

Here's what I found out:

1: As I stated before, QX9300 will NOT work with stock 6930G BIOS
2: The T9800 processor I picked up works just fine
3: The WXGA (1366x768) display CAN be upgraded to WUXGA (1920x1080) but you MUST use WUXGA cable part number 50.ASR07.002.
4: Even though Acer says that 4GB is the maximum RAM this is not true. The machine runs 8GB just fine.

I wanted to post that because when I was doing research to find out if I could upgrade the display there were no definitive answers as to whether the cable would have to be replaced and if so what cable would have to be used. The 6930/6930G service manual does not list the correct cable either. So for future google searches, it is *confirmed* that 50.ASR07.002 cable is the *correct* cable to use with 1920x1080 display.

Also interesting is that even though the T9800 is a 35W TDP processor and the P8600 is a 25W TDP processor my system actually runs cooler now than it did before. I am 99% sure this is because the stock heat tape for the processor and nvidia video card had broken down and was not transferring heat very well. I used Arctic Cooling MX-2 thermal grease when I put it back together. The stuff seems to work very well.

I wish the qx9300 had worked but I guess I'll take what I can get. The cost difference between the Qx9300 and the T9800 paid for the shiny new Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240gb SSD drive I installed. Plus I got the 2nd hard drive caddy and cover to I installed my old 320gb 7200 RPM drive in the 2nd drive bay.

Overall I am pretty happy. I think the upgrades to this machine have extended it's life at least another 2-3 years. Well worth it.

Michael

[andrewm1]

Hi all i have just got an acer 6930G Running on T5800 Processor windows 7 x 64 bit and 4 Gig of ram, Now after reading on here what can i do to upgrade this pc.

I also read about the 2HDD compartment and my external hdd does fit into the slot i have taken it out again as i don't know what to do regarding getting it working can i install a 2nd os on this so then i will have something like a duel boot???

Your advice would be much appreciated
Regards

[Radius]

Hi all i have just got an acer 6930G Running on T5800 Processor windows 7 x 64 bit and 4 Gig of ram, Now after reading on here what can i do to upgrade this pc.

I also read about the 2HDD compartment and my external hdd does fit into the slot i have taken it out again as i don't know what to do regarding getting it working can i install a 2nd os on this so then i will have something like a duel boot???

Your advice would be much appreciated
Regards

As far as CPU goes, you can run all the way up to a T9900 processor although I picked a T9800 because it was $100 cheaper and only 130 Mhz faster. There are also other options - E series MAC processors, etc, but over all I think the T series is the best choice since they offer more processor features and lower heat generation than the E series.

If your motherboard has the SATA connector for the 2nd drive already included on the board, then you are all set for a 2nd drive. All you have to do is order the hard drive caddy and the cover. I found the cover in sweden from Acer Spare Parts for a reasonable price and it only took a couple of weeks to get. The caddy I bought from a place back east - I can't remember the name - for $9.99. You'll also need some screws, but I had some extras from parts laptops.

Search the forum for the cover and caddy part numbers and go from there.

Hope that helps,
Michael

[andrewm1]

Thanks , will this be ok to fit
Intel Core 2 Duo P8600 2.4 GHz Processor 3M Cache, 2.40 GHz, 1066 MHz FSB SLGFD

also Nvidea Ge Force 9600M GT 1024MB MXM II

Will they make a big difference also do i need to flash the Bio's ???

[paymey]

CPU and GPU upgrade on Acer Aspire 6930G
Mobile Intel® PM45 Express Chipset with 82801IBM I/O Controller Hub (ICH9M) each of the socket P(P8600 is OK)., Q are not confirmed.
2HDD- change the boot order in bios.
Remember that more video memory makes a smaller impact on GPU performance than faster video memory.

[andrewm1]

CPU and GPU upgrade on Acer Aspire 6930G
Mobile Intel® PM45 Express Chipset with 82801IBM I/O Controller Hub (ICH9M) each of the socket P(P8600 is OK)., Q are not confirmed.
2HDD- change the boot order in bios.
Remember that more video memory makes a smaller impact on GPU performance than faster video memory.

Hi thanks what do you mean regarding the video memory ? is the Nvidea GeForse 9600M GT 1024MB MXM II not a good upgrade ?

Also looking at this one ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 MXM II 256MB DDR3 Graphics VGA video Card Acer

Also can i just fit this card and the pc will find the drivers for it ??

Sorry for the Q's but i'm a newbie at this

[paymey]

Q>Quad Processor . 512MB DDR3 is better than 1024MB DDR2 if the video card comes from the Acer should not be problems with drivers, if not use this method

check your num ID device in (properties vga stardard graphic)
on my acer 7720G
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0649&SUBSYS_056710DE&REV_A1
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0649&SUBSYS_061C10DE
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0649&CC_030000
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0649&CC_0300
(056710DE is my acer vendor)
and take the string in bold very important
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0649&SUBSYS_056710DE&REV_A1

after triyng to install official driver, go to C:\NVIDIA\DisplayDriver\xxx.xx\Vista(or win7) 64-bit\International\Display.Driver\
open ListDevices.txt with notepad
find line within DEV_0649
you will see
DEV_0649&SUBSYS_05731558 "NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT"
add new line with your string like

DEV_0649&SUBSYS_056710DE "NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT"
save file ListDevices.txt

back in explorer
scroll up few line you must see name of file may be like "nvac.inf:"
open this file and find with 0649

you will go to

%NVIDIA_DEV.0649.02% = Section005, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0649&SUBSYS_01211025
...................................
%NVIDIA_DEV.0649.20% = Section005, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0649&SUBSYS_013B1025

add new line
%NVIDIA_DEV.0649.21% = Section005, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0649&SUBSYS_056710DE
repeat for all section to the end
save this file and run setup normal.
during install windows alert it is not right driver , dont worry just click ok
restart and you will now have a detected 9600M GT

You can also use laptopvideo2go.com
but I don't recommend, better to make yourself.