Acer Aspire 1410 and 1810T Timeline (single core) 11.6" Thread

[Phil]

So I'm gonna sell my 1410 as soon as the next generation comes out... if that isn’t obvious. To those of you on the fence. I recommend you wait.

Pinetrail will be a lot weaker than SU3500... I'd rather have a SU4100.

PS. And Pinetrail may be limited to 10" like N270 and N280 were.

[lepton]

The problem I have with pineview is that it might not offer a performance boost worth writing home about. Atom already offers acceptable power usage for me. What it doesn't offer is the ability to provide basic functionality like fullscreen flash. Something tells me that Intel is deliberately positioning their low-end products right below the usability line for some of these common applications... if we could do youtube HD on a $30 atom chip, 80% of people would never consider buying into a more expensive architecture.

Adobe and Broadcom Bring HD Flash Video to Intel® Atom™ Processor Based Netbook Platforms

Intel and Broadcom Team to Bring HD to PineTrail

[Jusin]

I loaded Windows 7 pro without any issues. All drivers are built in... but you should get Intel's GPU driver since it boosts performance for Aero and media playback.

I recommend a clean install always... not worth the issues if something goes wrong.

You don't need the recovery partition if you made a recovery disk for Vista... that disk will put the partition back. So just delete everything and start fresh.

I didn't test Vista very long... but under Windows 7 the battery life is 6 or 7 hours with low usage and about 30% brightness.

I have not made recovery discs since I do not have an external drive. Is there a way to use the drive on my other laptop to create them through sharing the drive over the network? Or, can I save the recovery stuff on a usb key or an external hard drive and then burn the discs with my other computer?

I am going to install windows 7 using a usb key. Will there be an option to delete the recovery partition when doing a fresh install of windows 7 or will I need to delete that first?

Thanks

[tylerk]

I've skimmed through all the 120 pages of this thread, so if I've missed this someone let me know;

Has anyone done a real world battery-life test of the 1410 yet? I mean, multi-tab browsing, office documents being edited, and music/video playback intermittently? Also, does anyone know for certain yet that the battery in the 1810t cannot be used in the 1410?

[Phil]

Adobe and Broadcom Bring HD Flash Video to Intel® Atom™ Processor Based Netbook Platforms

I'm a bit sceptical for messages like those. It's marketing and lacks any guarantees.

All they say is "Flash Player with support for Broadcom's Crystal HD solutions is expected to be available in the first half of 2010." That could become 2011 too.

Let's hope for a better standard than flash by that time.

[lepton]

Pineview will be a lot weaker than SU3500... I'd rather have a SU4100.

PS. And Pineview may be limited to 10" like N270 and N280 were.

Hard to say that for sure. Details on Pineview aren't available yet... But I'd bet that an integrated GPU, integrated memory controller, 32 nm process, 2-chip motherboard design (instead of current 3 chip designs) will outperform in most ways... maybe not in raw FLOPs. We'll have to wait for real-world benchmarks.

What we really care about though is performance per watt-hour. And hands down Pineview will be significantly better.

[lepton]

I have not made recovery discs since I do not have an external drive. Is there a way to use the drive on my other laptop to create them through sharing the drive over the network? Or, can I save the recovery stuff on a usb key or an external hard drive and then burn the discs with my other computer?

I am going to install windows 7 using a usb key. Will there be an option to delete the recovery partition when doing a fresh install of windows 7 or will I need to delete that first?

Thanks

I don't have an external drive either... I used the demo of Virtual CD to trick Acer's program into making disc images for me.

You can delete all partitions when installing Win7.

[Phil]

Hard to say that for sure.

It's not that hard in my opinion. Intel does not want the Pinetrail platform to perform close to the CULV platform to avoid cannibalism of their own profits.

What we really care about though is performance per watt-hour. And hands down Pineview will be significantly better.

If that's so important for you I'd recommend Atom Z series. Already supports hardware H264 decoding at a very low TDP.

For me 6-8 hours on one battery is more than enough.

[lepton]

I'm a bit sceptical for messages like those. It's marketing and lacks any guarantees.

All they say is "Flash Player with support for Broadcom's Crystal HD solutions is expected to be available in the first half of 2010." That could become 2011 too.

Let's hope for a better standard than flash by that time.

That's just Flash player support... which will lag behind the hardware which will available this year. Flash in its current form is very inefficient anyway. See my previous media benchmarks for reasons to not use Flash.

[dannylu88]

Hey Guys,

I am making the recovery disks right now with my 1410 and I was wondering, are the disks supposed to not "boot" ... What I mean is... isnt it supposed to autorun when I pop the disk in? Instead, it just shows the recovery disk files in windows explorer. The driver and applications disk I used booted up like normal I don't get it.

Thanks

I loaded Windows 7 pro without any issues. All drivers are built in... but you should get Intel's GPU driver since it boosts performance for Aero and media playback.

I recommend a clean install always... not worth the issues if something goes wrong.

You don't need the recovery partition if you made a recovery disk for Vista... that disk will put the partition back. So just delete everything and start fresh.

I didn't test Vista very long... but under Windows 7 the battery life is 6 or 7 hours with low usage and about 30% brightness.