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    Well my laptops back to normal for the most part after installing that cursed T9900. Now I'm interested in upgrading the video card and RAM capacity. I have a 9600M GS DDR2 and I'm wondering what difference it would make to upgrade to a 9600M GT DDR3 or a 4650 or even a 4670 MXM-II if I'm lucky enough to find from an MSI. Now I'm just wondering which of the 3 is the best. Does the DDR3 from the 9600M GT make it comparable to the 4650 with DDR2? I've looked up the core clocks and all that and all I can assume is that it's better than what I have. I like to use Crysis as a video card standard now and I can play at 1280X720 on Medium settings with this card. Has anyone tried this game with the 4650 or 4670 or 9600M GT? I'm actually fairly interested in the two ATI cards since I've had fairly horrible experiences with nVidia and their mysteriously self-destructing cards. Does anyone have any purchasing links to the two ATI cards? Sorry for the mouthful.

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    Yes, the GDDR3's extra bandwidth puts it on par or slightly better than the Radeon HD 4650 DDR2.
    The HD 4670 GDDR3 would obviously pants both, but that's dependent on whether the MSI vBIOS is compatible with Acer's BIOS.
    The order, as I understand it, does something like:
    HD 4670 GDDR3 > 9600M GT GDDR3 = HD 4650 DDR2 > 9600M GS DDR2

    The purchasing link for the HD 4650 is here. The HD 4670 is not available from Acer in MXM-II format.

    As for the gaming abilities of the three cards, I'd recommend posting in the Can My Laptop Run It? thread on the Gaming forum.
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    Thanks for the info TehSuigi. I've heard that the 9600M series is particularly overclockable but what about ATI's cards?

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    @EchoShade: i have 9600M GS with 256 DDR3 and have not been able to overclock it as i could with my original 9500M but...... i am happy with performance anyway (just under 5000 mark 06). maybe because it is an 'engineering sample' or maybe (hopefully) because i havent tried hard enough
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    EDIT: Moved posts to appropriate forum.
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    Hi guys, how are ya
    I've just come back from my ACER retailer's spot where i got me some extra 2 GB of RAM and when they took off the bottom plate, I was surprised to see that all of the components were obviously removable, GPU most certainly. I've an ACER
    5520G stu(ck)ffed with a Geforce 8600M GS, 512MB DDRII. As far as I read, an upgrade to the GT version of the same GPU is most likely possible, but also saw the 130M GT listed as an MXMII compatible. It seems that the 130M GT demands a little more power (23 watts) as opposed to both 8600M GS and GT (20 watts). My question is therefore whether having a 20-watt-GPU means that the PCI port is only able to supply 20 watts of current or it can feed a more demanding GPU.
    My mobo is manufactured by ACER, model name says Fuquene. It has the nforce 560 chipset.
    Am I right or wrong to pickup any MXMII compatible GPU with a current consumption anywhere near 20 watts and stick it into my notebook?

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    Afraid not since when I tried a 9600m GT it would only partially work.

    It only runs 2d or cut down 3d clocks. You can change the cut down 3d clock parts by editing the bios but then you still have to wait 30 seconds extra each boot and you get no monitor outputs.

    You could get an 8600GT GDDR3 or HD 3650 (possibly 4650 but thats unchecked).
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    You can stuff whatever GPU you want, as far as it's MXM 2.1 Type II. Those watts sometimes are misleading, for example - HD3650 is 30 watt GPU, where 8600M and 9600M are 23 watt, but both are running a bit hotter than HD3650 You can also take a look at HD4650, there is a 5920G upgraded with it. I'm not very sure, but I guess that your can run 9600M GT too (because 5920G can't), if you choose to go with nVIDIA. Another thing, since you mentioned that your chipset is nVIDIA based, you can give a try to BSEL Mod in order to overclock you CPU
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    @ triturbo: Поздрави в слънчева Испания от дъждовната София

    Ookay, I guess I'll pass on the FSB mod since i've already blown a desktop's mobo some years ago, trying to unlock the multiplier on an Athlon XP. And I couldn't see anything for socket S1 and AMD CPU's so I assume it's a no go anyhow. But hey, thanks .
    @ Meaker: Am I then to understand that those issues were due to the lack of sufficient current/watts?
    And maybe you know some way, software or tool-based, to check what current the mobo is able to supply?

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    Quote Originally Posted by de3pkeeper View Post
    @ triturbo: Поздрави в слънчева Испания от дъждовната София
    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by de3pkeeper View Post
    Ookay, I guess I'll pass on the FSB mod since i've already blown a desktop's mobo some years ago, trying to unlock the multiplier on an Athlon XP. And I couldn't see anything for socket S1 and AMD CPU's so I assume it's a no go anyhow. But hey, thanks .
    I forgot that 5520G features an AMD CPU There was a much safer, software way, to clock your AMD CPU, but I can't remember it (I could be wrong though).

    Quote Originally Posted by de3pkeeper View Post
    @ Meaker: Am I then to understand that those issues were due to the lack of sufficient current/watts?
    Nope, this is called MXM incompatibility and as far as I'm aware it's only 9600M related. It seems that when you're upgrading older machine with 9600M GT, it would either not boot (5920G), or it would boot with the above mentioned problems (5520G, ASUS C90S).
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